6 foot/210 lbs Surf Troubles

[AledoSmitty]

I have a 2019 R21 and love it. My kids can surf so easy behind this boat. However, I can't. My wife hasn't tried yet but I have tried and can get up very easily and feel comfortable, just can't get that wake to push me forward enough to let go of the rope and be stable. Is there a formula for trying to get the settings correct for my height and weight?

[gumby]

Hate to say it but Nope. just practice your kids are just that Kids they pick things up quick. if you are using an appropriate size board. I tell this to all the beginners Don't look at the wave."FEEL THE WAVE" Head up look in the boat. FEEL IT. Stop looking at the wave.
and tell your kids what I told you that way when you are out there they will remind you to feel the wave. "BE THE WAVE". kidding aside. keep your head up don't look at the wave let me know how that works for you.

[sandm]

if you haven't yet, more ballast. factory ballast in most cases is not enough to run wireless.

[freeheel4life]

What board are you riding Smitty. I am 6' and 275 these days and can surf an R21 wireless, but I am definitely running lead if Im in it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VoJhMCAW_ik

^^Thats me on one of my LEAST favorite boards. Originally took the video because a guy was frustrated with it and said it wouldnt surf at all so grabbed a board I hate and put that up real quick.

If I recall we had 6 people on the boat and probably probably 600lbs of lead but may have been 800. Cant remember for sure.

[Cooter]

What size of board you on???

[gumby]

LOL ya all crack me up some times. I started out surfing behind a 1986 supra comp (19 foot) with a little weight in it. Way before suck gates were invented. A little list with all 2 or 3 people on the surf side.(me 200lbs) it wasn't a long wave(6-8 foot) and you had to drive in an arch to list the boat no perfect pass. The driver had to be as good as the surfer.
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I think the dates are 2006 2009 for these pics. so I Guarantee that 2019 R21 will surf with a little weight.

[boatwakes]

Dude, I'm 6'7" 260 and found the Hyperlite Landlock longboard last year, game changer for the big man. I can surf it with my 70lbs daughter wireless too. Easy, stable and smooth.

[NICKYPOO]

9 times out of 10 it’s the rider who can’t surf. I started back in ‘03. No ballast, no list, no gates, no actual wake surf board. Just a d-drive and a bunch of friends. I’ve surfed my boat with just the wife driving and no ballast or gates or nothing, just to see if I could keep up. I could. That was on the original 5’6” Landlock. I’m 6’ 200. Point is, the problem is most likely you.

I suggest getting an INDO Board or some kind of balance board and learning balance. It will make a huge difference.

[freeheel4life]

Yall are OGs. I'm late in the game. Just a ski bum that lucked into boats and wakesurfing.

Some of the tips that resonated with me was closing the shoulder so that you were following the wave instead of surfing perpendicular. Kept riding into the flats and getting dropped out. The ol hips and feet follow the upper body story. If you are holding the rope it tends to pull the shoulder out towards the flats instead of following the wave. Follow that wave with some more toe pressure and feel it push you.

That's what helped me figure out wireless a bit more. Still a rank amateur fat guy that wishes he was boating more instead of wrenching and living vicariously thru yall.

[Jetdriver]

How the hell you fit in those tight boat lockers all day Heel?!
Just kidding buddy. I’ve stooped to a new low, I drink beer while I make my friends kid climb around and run wires and such, he learns to wrench and I work on my supervisory skills, win win!

[freeheel4life]

Lol. Youd be surprised how many times someone comes in the shop looking for me and finds me stuffed in a locker, and they ask "howd you squeeze in there?".

Unfortunately the liner that hides the subfloor ballast kind of killed laying in lockers on some boats. You cant squeeze your legs between the line and the seats

[Zackdogg]

Hahhahahhahaha!!! “fat guy wiggle” as a title is the best part of that video!!!

We have a Phase 5 Wire that leaves no excuses for size. I’m 230# and we have guys over 300# riding it. Isn’t the best, as far as movement, but just about anyone can ride that thing without the rope, for as long as they want to.


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[Jetdriver]

Lol. Youd be surprised how many times someone comes in the shop looking for me and finds me stuffed in a locker, and they ask "howd you squeeze in there?".

Unfortunately the liner that hides the subfloor ballast kind of killed laying in lockers on some boats. You cant squeeze your legs between the line and the seats

Let me know if you need to use my guy

[gumby]

The funny thing is. I still make everyone I teach to surf Little First not much wight. #1 It saves me money because of the fuel. #2 The rider doesn't have to come down a WALL of water to get to the wave.#3 The sweet spot is small and close to the boat. so you can show them where it is (I use an old Croppie fishing rod) put the nose of the board on the tip.#4 If you can find it small when it big it is a no-brainer. This has method has taught lots of people to surf.#5 love to see the look on peoples faces when the wave gets HUGE.

[NICKYPOO]

I teach kids to snowboard in the winter and there’s actually quite a few similarities. What freeheel was saying is a very good tip. Lead with your shoulder, not your face. That leads to one of the most important things, standing up. Basic surfing requires your head to between your shoulders. If it’s in front of your shoulders, you’re going to struggle at best. Stand up, face the wave. My next advice would be to bring you knees together. They don’t need to touch but, they need to be in rather than out. This makes it much easier to control your speed. Controlling your speed is achieved by sliding your hips side to side. Sliding your hips over your front foot makes you accelerate. Sliding them over your back foot makes you decelerate. It’s a small range of motion that makes all the difference. A balance board really helps build the muscle memory required to stay in the pocket.

Stand up, face the wave, bring your knees in, slide your hips.