2016 RZR setup

[treeman77]

I have a 16 RZR and hav.e been surfing around 3 weeks now. My dealer took me out the first time to show me how to setup and surf. I've been filling the port side(surf side) to 100% and starboard side 75% and using the tige touch preset for surfing. Nothing in the bow. I'm getting a pretty good wave but not much push until I get almost to the swim platform. Looks like most folks are a little further back from the boat when surfing. I want more push and a longer sweet spot. Any advice??


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[chpthril]

What ballast option? TAPS-3 or AVX? Dont be afraid to ditch the pre-sets and find your own groove.

[treeman77]

Taps 3 setup. The preset is 10.8 mph. I've been reading that 11.5 - 12mph may be better speed


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[treeman77]

1,600 lb surf ballast option


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[Germaine Marine]

Taps 3 setup. The preset is 10.8 mph. I've been reading that 11.5 - 12mph may be better speed


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12 Mph wont be accessible unless the boat is loaded or you are running extra weight. I dont recall the exact layout ballast wise but I would guess what? 600 in each corner and 400 up front?

If you have a light crew.... ( less then 4) then fill the rears full, the bow to 20% and set taps3 at 1 (both sides) and taps at 3-4 and maybe 5 depending on rear weight. Set speed at 11.2 but 11.0 is fine if you must and adjust from there.

If you have a nice crew, then fill all bags full, same taps 3 and taps settings. Adjust taps to your preference

[Z3CO23]

I have a 16 RZR and hav.e been surfing around 3 weeks now. My dealer took me out the first time to show me how to setup and surf. I've been filling the port side(surf side) to 100% and starboard side 75% and using the tige touch preset for surfing. Nothing in the bow. I'm getting a pretty good wave but not much push until I get almost to the swim platform. Looks like most folks are a little further back from the boat when surfing. I want more push and a longer sweet spot. Any advice??

Fill the fronts all the way up till you see water pouring out both bags. I think the 1600 lb system has 2 200 lb bags up front instead of the old 400 lb horseshoe. Regardless fill it all the way up.... the RZR needs the bow weight to lengthen the pocket. Also yo want to try to sink the whole boat as much as you can.

Also fill that opposite side full and try to get a slight bit of list with passenger weight port. Filling both bags full will help you with the "push". Port side only needs a slight bit of list... like 2 deg, to clean up the lip and face.

If you are running too light to get the list with passengers get underway and drain opposite side bag till you see lip clean up and then stop it.

Just like elevated said, try 11 or 11.2. Firms the wave up a little.

[Germaine Marine]

I spent quite a bit of time this past weekend in an r20 helping a buddy set it up....

His boat didnt like any bow weight with a light crew. Maybe your boat will be different but we started at 20% and went up from there. I think we settled with around 50% with 3 guys plus myself.....

From my experience with his boat, you are going to need to add some extra weight in the form of bags or lead. His boat took 300 a side roughly that I brought for him to try to get it dialed in......

It was really awesome after that.

[Z3CO23]

I spent quite a bit of time this past weekend in an r20 helping a buddy set it up....

His boat didnt like any bow weight with a light crew. Maybe your boat will be different but we started at 20% and went up from there. I think we settled with around 50% with 3 guys plus myself.....

From my experience with his boat, you are going to need to add some extra weight in the form of bags or lead. His boat took 300 a side roughly that I brought for him to try to get it dialed in......

It was really awesome after that.

The bow weight surprises me but hey, if it works, it works! My old RZR loved bow weight.

More weight in the cabin would be great for sure.

[Germaine Marine]

The bow weight surprises me but hey, if it works, it works! My old RZR loved bow weight.

More weight in the cabin would be great for sure.

I think like you are figuring out its the taps 3 that is making things so different....

I'm actually running less and less now weight in my Z, usually no more then 80%....

I get the length with the speed. Thing is cranking out perfection At around 12-12.5 mph right now

[SKSailboatshop]

We weight our stock RZR 100% when surfing with pretty good luck

[treeman77]

Thanks for all the advice. It's usually. 2 or 3 people on the boat while surfing. Sounds like fill everything up and play with the taps and try running little faster.


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[mschmidt33]

The more weight the better for my RZR. Rub railed out. Front full for sure. We run almost 3K of ballast with MLA sacs and lead (all up front). Made a suck gate and run 10.6 normal and 11 goofy (paddle wheel so may be off). I do list it a few degrees and the wake is insane. More push way in the back then any other boat I have ridden including a Z3 and Craz. Both of those guys still have stock ballast though.

[Germaine Marine]

His boat is Taps 3, its gonna be entirely different..

[treeman77]

His boat is Taps 3, its gonna be entirely different..

It sounds like you have spent a lot of time playing around and tweaking the taps 3 system. I'm a little confused about all the advice I've been getting about my RZR. Should I fill the rears all the way or just the surf side? What about the bow, only surf side weight or both sides up front? What is the ideal list? I was told that taps3 boats won't do very well with much list...
Thanks for any help you can provide!


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[Germaine Marine]

It sounds like you have spent a lot of time playing around and tweaking the taps 3 system. I'm a little confused about all the advice I've been getting about my RZR. Should I fill the rears all the way or just the surf side? What about the bow, only surf side weight or both sides up front? What is the ideal list? I was told that taps3 boats won't do very well with much list...
Thanks for any help you can provide!


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I have spent too much time to be honest, and not just on my Z3. I was watching for when Tige was going to release the system and was waiting to buy until then. I bought one and from the factory on down, no one really knew the way to achieve the best wave out of them. After talking with ragboy about exactly what he was doing with his Rzx I decided to do the same thing exactly.

The common opinion is that the hulls are so drastically different that the settings and weight he was running wouldnt transer over. Well, I can tell you with certainty that the system itself makes these boats much closer then people care to admit. The rzx with 500 extra a corner is roughly displacing 11k lbs I believe.... Is the RZX wave more a product of overall displacement or the taps 3 system. I think the truth lies somewhere in the middle. If I slam my boat with 500 extra in each rear corner and load up all the bags and slide 6-7 people in the boat the wave is gigantic. I have seen RZX waves, going video for video and picture for picture I would say the waves are more close then anyone would care to admit, which leads me to believe that the wave generated with these surf systems is more about overall weight and displacement then anything. All of the tige boats aside from the rzx need a bunch of weight unsafe most likely to get anywhere near the displacement naturally that the RZx gets given how big and heavy it is.

I think every boat needs its own fine tuning, but start by loading the boat up with atleast 400 a side extra from what it comes with from the factory and then start tweaking. If you dont add it all at once remember that with ever addition the settings might need to change a little.

As for settings both ballast and taps wise mine really dont change.

I started by adding rear weight until I felt that the convex v was actually doing what it is designed to do, they way I found that out was getting all of my base line settings set.. with a light crew that was.....

Rear bags equally full,
Fronts 60%
Taps 3 at 1 (fully deployed)
Taps at 4

With that I then set my speed to 11mph and away I go. I increase the speed steadily until I get to 12mph. If the wave loses height and planes out, I add more weight. I do this until it is not affected speed wise up to 12mph. When that happened I knew I had the right amount of rear weight, and it is amazing how drastic it was. My z3 took 500 a side extra in lead stacked up in the rear most part of the locker or 400 in the locker and 100 in each activity compartment (Which the engineers at Tige told me was ok).

Since then its always the same always duplicatable. Might have to shed some bag weight if the boat is loaded with people but the base line is always the same.

For the shape, its a simple taps adjustment 2-3 for a more mellow long skim wave and 3-5 for a taller surf wave. You can take some surf plate out of the water as well but I usually find the adjustment I need using Taps only.

I really dont pay much attention to my inclinometer anymore...... but I can check next time. I want to say that starboard was roughly 7-8 degrees and port was 5-7 while running but dont hold me on that. All induced by the surf system not at rest.

I have also had some luck listing the boat over 3-5 degrees and then adding a little plate in (in the 11-13 range on taps 3) I was definitely a different wave.

Hope all of that helps.....

-Jason