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    http://vid550.photobucket.com/albums...ty/adjgate.mp4
    see if this works
    ok so it worked, I like this being adj so you can test with the varying angles and whats best, just haven't had the time yet. The nice thing with the suction cups too is you can adj how close to the transom the gate is. I built this with what was in the garage so not ideal but it works
    Last edited by dukesofhazzard; 08-30-2016, 04:55 AM.

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      Originally posted by dukesofhazzard View Post
      http://vid550.photobucket.com/albums...ty/adjgate.mp4
      see if this works
      ok so it worked, I like this being adj so you can test with the varying angles and whats best, just haven't had the time yet. The nice thing with the suction cups too is you can adj how close to the transom the gate is. I built this with what was in the garage so not ideal but it works
      Very cool! Not pretty but I love the idea of adjustable angle. What material did you use for gate? What is that adjusting device? Princess auto as well? Is it stainless?

      Thanks for taking the time to explain!

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        So, mixed results. Of course this was just one session with it so it's not perfected in the slightest. It made it really easy to get a nice, clean, usable wake, but not the best wake I've ever produced with my boat. It did increase the length but, I know this will be a shocker, killed the height. There's a ton of potential energy that is lost on the location of the lip. It's in the middle of the wake. There is the typical of Sucgate giant flat spot from the lip to where the spine was. If I can connect the the lip to the spine, well, then I'll have it. Just too much effect from the device I think. I think I'll be cutting it (the cutting board) down quite a bit to try and bring the spine back to center. I think it will decrease the "crab" of the lateral hull attitude and it might take some math I'm probably not capable of to bring those two back together. I'll have to do it the hard way, trial and error. Day one is in the books at least.

        It should be noted that this test was in an alkaline lake. It's much more bouyant than a clear lake. I've always struggled to get good wakes at this lake. However, it has water in it. A big plus around these parts. Cleanup takes 2-3 times as long at the end of the day though. Whata ya gonna do?

        Ok, pics. 450 both rears, 10mph, 20deg Sucgate as far back as possible, just above the lower section set horizontal with bottom of hull, taps full up. 4 adults (3 surf side), 4 children (1 observer's, 3 how).
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        You'll get your chance, smart guy.

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          Couple more...

          Flat section is very meaty. You can take a big 'ol bite and it'll hold.
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          You'll get your chance, smart guy.

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            Best back of the pocket shots...
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            You'll get your chance, smart guy.

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              Jetter,

              the material is uhdm or equivalent, but I think ply is def fine for the trial and error part, the adj part is a stainless turnbuckle I had kicking around. Homedepot sells some too, just not as beefy or stainless, but would still work. Yeah once I get something I am really happy with I will fine tune it.

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                I used pvc plastic trims by VERANDA, u can use any wood tools on it, comes in all standard board size and it floats! Found at home dépôt

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                  My home made gates works perfectly !! It double the lenght and height of the wave !

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                    I have built 6 suck gates now for friends, I have tried it on 8 different boats- brands.

                    Overall it reduces the height of the wave compared to heavily listed, it also mellows the ramp out. Which at first I didn't like the "look" of the wave. Also the added length is nice. My airs and tricks are better, the only thing that has to change is my board designs. . They are all made for a steep wave and they lack drive on a gate wave. I personally like it hybrid. Which is 2500 surf side, 500 or so offside and letting my normal crew site wherever they want. Which is very nice. Also my boat seems more happy riding more level.
                    Build thread: http://www.tigeowners.com/forum/showthread.php?14787-Duffy-s-2005-24v-wakesurfing-mod-thread&highlight=duffys+24v

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                      Originally posted by duffymahoney View Post
                      I have built 6 suck gates now for friends, I have tried it on 8 different boats- brands.

                      Overall it reduces the height of the wave compared to heavily listed, it also mellows the ramp out. Which at first I didn't like the "look" of the wave. Also the added length is nice. My airs and tricks are better, the only thing that has to change is my board designs. . They are all made for a steep wave and they lack drive on a gate wave. I personally like it hybrid. Which is 2500 surf side, 500 or so offside and letting my normal crew site wherever they want. Which is very nice. Also my boat seems more happy riding more level.
                      Do beginners do better with the gate wave vs listed? Beginners have trouble on my fully listed setup with a steep wave.
                      Mods: MLA BIG Ballast System (1800+ Custom sacs, 2 500 W705 sacs under bow), Duffy Surf Flap Mod, Trimmed Swim Deck, Top-Mount Starter

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                        I believe they do, but I haven't had much first hand. Wave is less steep, so in theory it should be easier to ride.
                        Build thread: http://www.tigeowners.com/forum/showthread.php?14787-Duffy-s-2005-24v-wakesurfing-mod-thread&highlight=duffys+24v

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                          Bambino! Nicely done my friend!!!

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                            Originally posted by duffymahoney View Post
                            I have built 6 suck gates now for friends, I have tried it on 8 different boats- brands.

                            Overall it reduces the height of the wave compared to heavily listed, it also mellows the ramp out. Which at first I didn't like the "look" of the wave. Also the added length is nice. My airs and tricks are better, the only thing that has to change is my board designs. . They are all made for a steep wave and they lack drive on a gate wave. I personally like it hybrid. Which is 2500 surf side, 500 or so offside and letting my normal crew site wherever they want. Which is very nice. Also my boat seems more happy riding more level.
                            I never thought I might hear you with device love! In MB land, where I live now, my GSA wave is crazy good. It is a bit like you describe, different, but firm, long and nice. It needs to be ridden differently. I prefer it to the listed wave.

                            And my boat, and occupants, enjoy the level.

                            I like your hybrid take, my 24Ve did good hybrid like that, until my brother in law lost my fake gate for me.
                            Time flies like an arrow; fruit flies like bananas!

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                              lots of nice looking diy gates in here!
                              I have spent a ton of time tweaking my own designs to improve the wake my 22Ve puts out. My listed wake always looked pretty nice but never had the push or clean 'lip' i really needed to get airs consistently. For me I like the wedge as far back as it can go and taps on 4, I set mine up in the shallower angle for newer riders, it lengthens the wave and makes it less steep. If they're first timers you can also drive with a slight turn, that will really take away the steepness.

                              My biggest problem is now the huge platform chopping the wake of my 22ve, anyone have a good company to get smaller platforms?

                              Here a few clips of my wake shaper in action.

                              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wVDL67BauVM

                              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PEDcjN48Xj4

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                              Last edited by highroller; 10-19-2016, 06:24 PM.

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                                I just cut my teak deck down.
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                                Build thread: http://www.tigeowners.com/forum/showthread.php?14787-Duffy-s-2005-24v-wakesurfing-mod-thread&highlight=duffys+24v

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