Opposite surf weighting theory

[houstonshark]

I have a buddy who comes out with us sometimes and he rides goofy. We have tried all sorts of setups on my RZR (except for adding opposite weight) without any luck. The goofy wake is usually very washy and we get a lot of water splashing in the face of the rider.

[ragboy]

I actually have a couple of 15s on the way, testing with ACME, I can't wait to test that.

[ragboy]

I have a buddy who comes out with us sometimes and he rides goofy. We have tried all sorts of setups on my RZR (except for adding opposite weight) without any luck. The goofy wake is usually very washy and we get a lot of water splashing in the face of the rider.

Do you have the VX? Surf ballast?

[Wickedcummins]

does the boat accept/behave the same with opposite wake on both sides? I have found on most of the new boats, they like opposite weight when weighting regular, not so much goofy.

thats weird all the 2011+ boats I have worked with None of them like opposing weight for regular. But Goofy They LOVE weight on the opposing side!

[Timmy!]

Speaking of props, I recently changed to the 1433 in my boat and now all of a sudden, my boat loves opposite weight when surfing port side! No idea why, we could never get a clean wave with any weight at all on that opposite side. Heck, if we had 8 people on the boat, we would have to have everyone cram on to the port side just to get the wave to clean up. Now I can run that custom sac with water up to the seat bottom on the opposite side and have bumped the speed up to 11.6/11.8 depending on how many are on board and it's gorgeous! The wave that I have now was every bit as good as the Z3 that pulled the final EWT stop (which is not the same wave that ragboy has or even close!).

[ragboy]

thats weird all the 2011+ boats I have worked with None of them like opposing weight for regular. But Goofy They LOVE weight on the opposing side!

That changes with VX, it reverses.

[Wickedcummins]

That changes with VX, it reverses.

well thank god I dont have the need for one of them

[duffymahoney]

I have a custom 5 blade prop just fyi. It made the wave cleaner. I also think you can only add opposite weight if you have enough regular weight, and by enough I mean a lot

[Timmy!]

I have a custom 5 blade prop just fyi. It made the wave cleaner. I also think you can only add opposite weight if you have enough regular weight, and by enough I mean a lot

I just run the custom L sac that everyone else does. Maybe we don't have a "pro" wake but we are having fun!

[luke]

LH rotation boats are already "opposite weighting" the goofy side all the time. so when setting up to surf regular, weight on the goofy side plus the effect of prop yaw has a much more pronounced effect than surfing goofy, where lots of the opposite weight is just counteracting what the prop's doing.

If LH rotation boat naturally sinks the goofy side more I don't understand what's hard to understand about counterweighting when surfing goofy.

Can someone explain prop yaw

[chpthril]

Can someone explain prop yaw

Its Paula Deen yaw, but less sugar.

[Ewok]

Can someone explain prop yaw

Read this to start:

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/P-factor

Then this:

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torque_effect

And put it all together with this:

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prop_walk

[luke]

Thanks!! Good info

[luke]

thats weird all the 2011+ boats I have worked with None of them like opposing weight for regular. But Goofy They LOVE weight on the opposing side!

That's what I've herd also but with my z3 this does not seem to be the case it's the reg side that is easy to dial not the goofy why do we think this is? I also need more list on goofy side to clean up wake.

[Wickedcummins]

That's what I've herd also but with my z3 this does not seem to be the case it's the reg side that is easy to dial not the goofy why do we think this is? I also need more list on goofy side to clean up wake.

Interesting.. Yet another reason for me not to buy a Z3 lol.. Im a goofy rider