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[adamsjstt]

I have seen so many videos of people riding ropeless with little to no effort I don't understand what im doing wrong. I have a 07 RZ2 im using mikes custom surf sac along with a u shape sac in the bow. I have tried different set ups for the front. I tried filling the entire sac I have folded it in the middle so I only have surf side bow weight and I have tried no bow weight and still no luck at riding ropeless for more than about 5 seconds. I have tried speeds from 10.2 to 12.8 and taps from 2-6. I am using a triple x slayer board im not sure of the fin sizes but im running it as quad with the fins that came with the board. My friends have the same issue although they say my boat has the best wave they have ridden we still don't seem to get enough push to keep us going. The weight of the riders is 175-220. I am in water that is 30+ feet. Any suggestions?

[st68]

do you have any video with you surfing? I posted video before and Dennis from Walker gave me some pointers that really helped to become wireless more consistently... for me it was not my wake even though it got tweaked a little... it was me keeping my back leg straight and moving my feet further up on the board. My back foot was all the way back and I moved it about 4 inches forward and then adjusted my front front forward about the same... this kept the weight more forward on the board and helped me stay wireless much more easily. A video of you posted on here would all of us to chime in on your wake and riding technique.

[laserfish]

I just learned yesterday, and was amazed at how much foot placement affected how I could ride with slack rope. Moved my front foot forward about 4 inches on the second try and could now accelerate on the wave to keep up with the boat. Still trying to get comfortable on the wave, but the straight back let and moving forward made a big difference for me.

[Wickedcummins]

foot placement and tons of practice

[ragboy]

@adamsjstt You are not too far away, come up here and bring your board, would love to get you going, and have some other boards to try.

[skippabcool]

If Timmy! doesn't reply PM him, he has the same boat. He has the same boat. He doesn't put any water up front if I recall correctly.

X2 on the foot placement and practice. Along with the foot placement you also have to shift your weight, gracefully.

[Wickedcummins]

mY rz2 Loves weight up front.. WE fill starboard hard tank and upgraded bag the fill the starboard front bag 400lbs

Then the third and fourth and so pn persons sit on starboard side and I then match there weight on the port side hard tank andbag... Wave is Killer....

List angle is key... Then as much damn weight you can get to sink it and keep the angle!

But I free rode with stock weight in the boat.. So I would say its your form or board!

[adamsjstt]

Thanks guys sounds like I need to try foot placement. I have tried moving the front food but I have always kept the rear foot in the pocket that is created from the traction pad assuming it was the perfect spot. I will report back

[adamsjstt]

@adamsjstt You are not too far away, come up here and bring your board, would love to get you going, and have some other boards to try.

That is a very tempting offer specially coming from some one of your experience. I might have to take you up on that offer. I do have family in redding. Thanks alot for the offer

[majestic]

Dump the front weight and see if the push improves.

[glassmaker]

I followed majestics advice and dumped the front weight and it made a huge difference in the amount of push. I am currently running at 10.6 with taps at 4 with mikes 1200 lb rear sac with only two people in the boat. I also learned what others have already talked about and that foot position is important. I start out with putting my front foot as far forward without pearling the boat and put my rear foot at a position where I have a comfortable stance with my toes close to the edge of the foam and then make adjustments from there. Hope that helps.

[ragboy]

A Video would def help out a ton.

[adamsjstt]

I've never tried to upload a vid but ill give it a shot this weekend. Thanks guys

[Timmy!]

I never run bow weight. We try it every now and then and it doesn't seem to have the same push. I run the custom sac completely full and speed anywhere from 10.8 to 11.6 and adjust the taps to 1 to 4 or somewhere in there. I have been riding at this same speed and settings for 5 years now.

Foot placement, hip movement make all the difference in the world. You will get it, you have the right board. Think of surfing without the rope as dancing, you have to move your hips and shift your weight back and forth like a dance of some sort. When you start dropping back, shift weight to your front hip and then immediately shift back some so you don't run into the boat. Back and forth, back and forth. You will get it.

[Timmy!]

FWIW - we learned to free ride with (2) 5 gallon buckets filled up as our ballast and the 3 of us are 190-220 lbs and we were using a CWB Ride which isn't half as good as the board you have.