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    Wakesurf board recommendations?

    I've read lots of threads (many a couple of years old) on the topic of "Which wakesurf board?", but I have some specific questions.

    Christmas is coming and I think Santa is going to bring 1-2 new wakesurf boards to go with our new 24Ve. Trouble is, we can't demo anything because the lakes are freezing up now. It probably doesn't matter anyway, since we're brand new to wakesurfing so we probably don't know enough to judge for ourselves anyway.

    Here's our situation. There are three of us in our family (me at 5-10/175#, wife at 5-6/150#, 8YO son at 4-4/70#) and all three of us want to hit wakesurfing hard next season. We are rank beginners, but we're quite physically capable. I've been behind a friend's wakesurf boat exactly one time, got up instantly, and after about two minutes of board time was able to go ropeless and hold it for about 15 seconds. My son has also been behind that boat that one day, got up with no problems, and was very close to trying ropeless. All three of us learn fast (absolutely not bragging, just trying to provide good background for board recommendations) so while we might need a "beginner" board we're afraid of outgrowing it quickly.

    We'll play with air tricks, but I'm already a huge surface trick guy. I ride finless on my wakeboard to make multispins easier. Also, none of us have a "preferred" side and we intentionally do constant 180's to keep our skills symmetrical. (I was already wanting to try 180's on my first day behind the wakesurf boat.) This makes me think we'd want a truly symmetrical board (with fins? finless?), but that's just a guess.

    Meanwhile, we also entertain dozens of family and friends almost every summer day at our lake place. Virtually every one will want to try wakesurfing, just like they've all wanted to learn wakeboarding. We have an entire rack of wakeboards in our boathouse that we've picked up over the years to accommodate everybody (garage sales, demos and rentals, etc.) but we can't afford to duplicate that in wakesurf boards. That said, our friends range up to 250+ pounds and well over six feet tall so I doubt they are going to learn well on a board that suits our under-6foot family.

    That's some background. I'm happy to answer questions to help narrow the list of recommended boards. Thanks in advance for assistance, recommendations, and comments!

    #2
    if your into surface tricks, youll want a skim style surfer. if your planning on buying a couple boards it makes it much easier to take care of all your needs.
    For a skim style, I have heard great things about calibrated, but also heard they are pretty difficult to get. I woulld look for a calibrated piscus or telum, i cant remember which model is which, but i was looking to get one of those for my old man.

    If i were to buy a skim style, it would be a calibrated, they use some pretty cool tech in the boards.

    For your kid and wife, I would just go with something like a hyperlite coex, thats what i learned on, and most girls I take out with me like riding it the best.

    flyboy makes a sick one, some others will chime in soon.

    I have a custom shredstixx elevation that i really like, its really fast, but takes some getting used to. My old man has a LF venture he loves, doesnt like my elevation or the coex.

    as far as your bigger friends go, i would find an old beater surfboard at a garage sale if you can. To be honest, they wont be on anything enough to get them freesurfing so its no biggy if it doesnt fit them perfect. my experience
    Joey - Red 20V Riders Edition

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      #3
      Originally posted by somebodyelse5 View Post
      if your into surface tricks, youll want a skim style surfer.
      I've seen those and wondered about them. I'm definitely attracted to the lightweight/thin style. However, other threads here have suggested that true skim-style boards have insufficient rocker to permit much air at all... almost like you're giving up air tricks completely.

      if your planning on buying a couple boards it makes it much easier to take care of all your needs.
      I am presuming we need two boards. The question is what pair? "One for surface, one for air"? OR "One beginner, one more advanced"? That's sort of my main question. I don't expect to find a single board that does everything for everyone, but I'm unsure which TWO boards to get to best cover things.

      For your kid and wife, I would just go with something like a hyperlite coex, thats what i learned on, and most girls I take out with me like riding it the best.
      Why did you put them in a different category than me? If I gave the impression they want to do different things, I made a mistake. Please presume we all want to do the same things. We just differ in height and weight (specs in my first post). I mentioned surface tricks mostly because we like symmetrical boards (we have our wakeboards set up totally symmetrical) and I presume that may affect the recommendations people make in this thread.

      flyboy makes a sick one, some others will chime in soon.
      Not sure how available FlyBoy's are anymore, with the Inland purchase.

      I've also looked at Asylum's boards. I like Larry's approach to things, but have zero experience with wakesurf boards so don't know if his are better/same/worse than others. He does offer a package deal of both board styles, which is financially attractive, but if they're junk then they're not worth it at any price. I simply don't know.

      Thanks for your comments so far - keep 'em coming!
      Last edited by IDBoating; 11-09-2010, 11:37 PM.

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        #4
        Originally posted by WABoating View Post
        I've seen those and wondered about them. I'm definitely attracted to the lightweight/thin style. However, other threads here have suggested that true skim-style boards have insufficient rocker to permit much air at all... almost like you're giving up air tricks completely.



        I am presuming we need two boards. The question is what pair? "One for surface, one for air"? OR "One beginner, one more advanced"? That's sort of my main question. I don't expect to find a single board that does everything for everyone, but I'm unsure which TWO boards to get to best cover things.



        Why did you put them in a different category than me? If I gave the impression they want to do different things, I made a mistake. Please presume we all want to do the same things. We just differ in height and weight (specs in my first post). I mentioned surface tricks mostly because we like symmetrical boards (we have our wakeboards set up totally symmetrical) and I presume that may affect the recommendations people make in this thread.
        based on weight, and you seem to be the one thats pretty into it. will she be wanting to progress or just have a good time messing around on it? only reason i did was just based on the girls I know, they enjoy it, but the board isnt a huge deal to them.


        Not sure how available FlyBoy's are anymore, with the Inland purchase.

        I've also looked at Asylum's boards. I like Larry's approach to things, but have zero experience with wakesurf boards so don't know if his are better/same/worse than others. He does offer a package deal of both board styles, which is financially attractive, but if they're junk then they're not worth it at any price. I simply don't know.

        Thanks for your comments so far - keep 'em coming!
        If you want a board for air, get a shred stixx elevation, comp 1, or thresher, or a flyboy if you can get one. just from the videos i've seen, majority of the guys that do huge airs ride a comp 1, elevation, flyboy, and ive seen a few videos of guy getting some decent airs on skimmers. Hazen rides an elevation, and goes huge.
        heres a vid with chase and james riding elevation and flyboy.
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        heres a vid of some skimmers. this is shredstixx skim style board.
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        Joey - Red 20V Riders Edition

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          #5
          For your kid and wife, I would just go with something like a hyperlite coex, thats what i learned on, and most girls I take out with me like riding it the best.
          So which style would you consider the Coex to be - skim or traditional? Presuming traditional, then we could also pick up a skim-style board when we want to focus on surface tricks.

          Also, at least one quick Google lookup on "hyperlite coex" says it's for "advanced to expert". Are we going to struggle too much with a board like that, when we're just starting out? Or should we just tough it out at first?

          Does board size matter much for little kids? My 8YO is ~70 pounds. Will he need a smaller board so he can throw it around, or is it more a question of having enough planing surface to get up but more doesn't hurt?

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            #6
            Originally posted by WABoating View Post
            So which style would you consider the Coex to be - skim or traditional? Presuming traditional, then we could also pick up a skim-style board when we want to focus on surface tricks.

            Also, at least one quick Google lookup on "hyperlite coex" says it's for "advanced to expert". Are we going to struggle too much with a board like that, when we're just starting out? Or should we just tough it out at first?

            Does board size matter much for little kids? My 8YO is ~70 pounds. Will he need a smaller board so he can throw it around, or is it more a question of having enough planing surface to get up but more doesn't hurt?
            I guess the coex sits more on the "skim" style of board since its more stable laterally. i would ignore the "advanced to expert" deal, in my eyes its a beginner ish board. I start off most of the smaller people i teach on that. Size of the board will definitely be an issue, think of it like this, how would you do cut backs with a longboard vs a shortboard in the ocean. kind of exaggerated, but similar idea.

            Heres me riding the coex
            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Whc8yYKj_O0

            heres me riding the elevation
            http://vimeo.com/13347104 skip towards the second half, some better surfing.

            I would get a shred stixx elevation (custom) as a surf style board for airs, and a phase 5 or calibrated for skim style. If its so YOU can ride skim and surf style, thatd be the best combo. weight will determine size for the surf style, keep in mind you can ride a board thats too big for you, but its harder to ride one thats too small.
            Joey - Red 20V Riders Edition

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              #7
              WABoating, you might find this link useful:

              http://wake9.com/polar-bear-2010/

              At the bottom is a link to various riders comments on a bunch of the boards mentioned in this thread. The riders are not affiliated with a board brand, etc. They list their skills, weight, etc and they have the opportunity to compare similar boards during a single session.

              Nothing beats being able to demo a bunch of boards, but this listing of the riders and their specific attributes is a great resource.
              Buy my kid's board! http://www.flyboywakesurf.com

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                #8
                I'll have an IS Blue Lake you could use for your bigger friends to try out.
                2009 RZ2, PCM 343, MLA Surf Ballast, Premium Sound.
                2013 Toyota Sequoia 4WD W/Timbren SES

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                  #9
                  I have an '09 Ronix Koal... but...
                  : Fast, handles like a dream, and light as a feather
                  : FRAGILE(sqeeze with hand = finger dents), Pricey

                  I guess the fragile part comes with the actual surfboard style construction, the weight is a great strength but it might also be a weakness unless you baby the crap out of it... just

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Ewok View Post
                    I'll have an IS Blue Lake you could use for your bigger friends to try out.
                    Thanks! I'm pretty sure I'll be taking you up on that offer next summer. See you soon in Spokane!

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by somebodyelse5 View Post
                      Heres me riding the coex
                      heres me riding the elevation
                      That's some nice riding there.

                      I like how the Coex seems to work for you. But you consider it more of a "skim" style? Looks more substantial than what I've been seeing described as "skim" boards. Hmmm.

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Surfdad View Post
                        Thanks for that. Looking at the riders who are closest to the average of our three sizes and weights, there seems to be a preference for the Inland Surfer Infectious and your Flyboy board. I'll start researching those a bit more. Are FlyBoys available right now, given the buyout?

                        Thanks again, very helpful!

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                          #13
                          FlyBoy's are available only as a pre-order thru Inland. I'm not sure they would be a good choice for your situtation as you described yourself's as "rank beginners". The FlyBoy's are very responsive and NOT very foregiving.

                          Some of the other boards mentioned do very well with beginners.
                          Buy my kid's board! http://www.flyboywakesurf.com

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Surfdad View Post
                            Some of the other boards mentioned do very well with beginners.
                            Specifics, please?

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by WABoating View Post
                              That's some nice riding there.

                              I like how the Coex seems to work for you. But you consider it more of a "skim" style? Looks more substantial than what I've been seeing described as "skim" boards. Hmmm.
                              the coex doesnt have as much drive as the elevation or other surf style boards like the flyboy. you wont be able to carve as hard or go as fast with a skim style as you would with the surf style....thats why airs are normally on the surf style boards.

                              I could get enough speed or hold to get any air on the coex. its flatter, and is more solid side to side, has one small fin, thats why i consider it more of a skimmer.
                              Joey - Red 20V Riders Edition

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