liquid force custom surfer

[Micah]

Keep an eye on The Walker Projects website. Mike sometimes gets used boards for sale in that $400 range. I personally would spend the extra $100 and get a Walker board, you won't regret it.

[MTtigekid]

used is def. a good option for me.. normally i wouldnt be hampered by a budget like this but i just ran into some expenses i dont usually have.. soooo it could be possible for me to spend more than my budget, it might just take a bit more time fo rme to get the money together..
now onto the question portion:
*its sounding more and more to me that the skim i have now should be adequate for spinning on, so i would prolly like to get more of the "surf" style you were talking about im going to check out some of the boards you mentioned and see what i like and dont like... i nose around on wakeoutlaws from time to time and maybe i need to visit their site again and check some more stuff out

[Surfdad]

Excellent! If you can save some more dollars there are much better surf style boards for you - but you're probably looking at close to $600, unless you can score a used board.

Keep us posted!

[MTtigekid]

for sure.. im going to keep my eyes open and hey the b-day is comeing up so you never know
thanks for all the info

[MTtigekid]

okay heres what i have been looking at..
- endless break fiddy
- shred stixx comp 1
- walker project bullet (with the thruster or quad pattern i think)

wadda ya think?? i tried to find some of the other boards you (surfdad) had mentioned and i can't find them or am looking in the wrong place

[chpthril]

1st off, I dont have the expertise in surfboards as most, but I rode the smaller custom, 4.3 or 4.1 maybe?, a couple of times last Summer. Actually liked the ride, but you will definitely need a big wake for it if you're a big guy like me. The first time was behind the 52ft'r and it had plenty of push , next time was behind a CC210 and it was unrideable. Even my CWB Tsunami struggled with that ripple of a surf wake

[ajward]

Asylum Boardz

Surfdad, When you say the Asylum is fast, is that compared to a Surf style board or just other Skims? Would a heavy guy 200+ with a small to med wake on a Mojo Grande be a good choice for going ropeless in your opinion?

MTtigekid, the Asylum fits nicely in your budget at an introductory price of $220 + shipping!

Hey MTtigekid,

I'm going to be honest with you, your budget blows. It's going to be hard to find a board within that range, unless you find a good used one. That's so sketchy, you'd almost have to post back up with each find. I've noticed that the MOB Group has a warehouse and they are selling used board and blanks at REMARKABLE prices. They had a 4'10" custom that was used at a wakesurf school for $150. Give JL a shout at:

http://mobgroup.tv/mobwarehouse.html

See if they have anything worthwhile in a used wakesurfer, then you can ask about what they have available.

As far as new. There are only a few that hit in that price range.

If you are thinking you want to learn shuv's or surface rotations greater than a 360 - say 540 or 720's, you'll want to look at a skimmer. These boards will limit your ability to generate air, because they tend to have no rocker and limited drive. That combination makes it hard to release the board from the water. I have watched some of the Victoria skimboard team pro's throw HUGE ollies behind my boat, but they are far and away the minority and not what we normal folks can achieve. So a skim style board will be your choice if you're looking to learn shuv's, 720's and don't really care too much about the aerials OR riding that weak wake.

In the Skim style arena, you're looking for a 54" or so length board. The Phase 5 Prop, Triple X has a skimmer that is a knock off of the Prop for a hundred or so cheaper, that's a good deal. Also Shred Stixx has a skimmer, but I think it's outside your price range. I would also look seriously at the new asylum boardz. The old trick boardz are now asylum only they are made out of foam instead of wood. Super light, they spin all day and they are exceptionally fast. They are a little tough to do shuv's on because the concave tends to suck the board down to the water, but it can be done. If you get a new one of those...lightly sand the bottom with 600 wet/dry until water flows off the bottom instead of beading up. That will help with release.

On the surf style boards, they will have deep fins and a shape that hampers riding the board revert. (fins first). With the deep fins ridden revert like after landing a shuv, will tend to catch in the wake and spin you around. If you're not overly concerned with shuv's and you can be satisfied with a maximum of a 360 rotation then solid surfstyle boards will work. The only board that I can recommend in this price range is the TWP Comp X 4'8". I believe that it lists at $399 ready to ride - JUST squeaked into your budget The Triple X Slaysher 4'6" is a nice shape and rocker, but they used wakeboard fins, so - I don't know, it's a poor combination, but might be worth a look-see as a surf style board. In your budget also.

The last area that might be worth your consideration is the hybrid board. They are crosses of surf and skim. Typically they don't do either very well, but they do allow folks to do both shuv's, throw aerials and spins maybe in the 720 range, 900's and 1080's would be hard on this style board.

The Walzer alpha fit this category and then also the TWP S-2 offerings. I'm hesitent to include the asylum boardz in here, but they do "sorta" qualify. They have a well defined rocker and deep concave. So that board will allow you to do just about everything, if not the best of anything. The Walzer Alpha will have to be used and they are pretty scarce. Also there were two models, one with a HUGE rocker and the good one Stay away from the Walzer with the huge rocker. The TWP S-2 54 is a tad outside your price range, but is a good hybrid board and I'd consider it strongly.

Sheesh, I dumped a bunch of info, didn't I? Feel free to post up more questions, lots of info to consider and I'm within the community we can get you on the right board.

[Surfdad]

Larry makes a great product and stands behind everything he sells. He is definately one of the best, if not THE best in this industry. I've never ridden the new foam mojo, but the old wood Trick Boardz could handle 200+ on just about any wake. The "pin'ish" tail gives the board stability as it sinks the tail and the substantial concave gives those boards lift and speed. I'd bet it is a solid choice for what you describe. You know what I would do? Call Larry directly and explain what your situation, I'd be willing to bet that he'd let you return it for the cost of shipping, if it didn't work for you. That's basically the cost of renting a board for a demo.

If you look at the cost, durability and performance, I think the asluym's are a great value.