Fuel guage

[Tige M.D.]

do your buddies with other brands of ski boats have accurate fuel gauges? if so, maybe somebody in texas should take note of this.

i dream of the day when i don't have to hear/read about fuel gauge issues. they are my nemesis.

[canucktige]

Original Wing Nut:

I know you're pissed right now because of your first trip experience. I just picked up our new 22i and was on the water for the first time last week. We've in the process of breaking her in and trying to get the first 10 hours on her before the water is warm enough to board in.

I don't think that the fuel guage problems are a Tige specific problem. Our previous boat was a Campion 18 foot I/O and the fuel gauge on her was useless as well. The main problem is that unlike cars, boats do not travel on a vertical plane so the gas will slip back and forth depending on how fast you're going and whether the boat is trimmed up or down. On our old boat we could go from 1/2 to empty in a very short time and it was only a V6.

I do agree with you that Tige should either offer a fuel flow meter option or install it as a standard item (this would certainly differentiate it from the other manufactures). The increased cost would be mininal.

I looked on the Ferria (sp?) guage manual and it indicated that it already has an input for a fuel meter option. I am going to contact my dealer and have it installed. I believe that you can set an alarm so that it will warm you when you've gone thru a preset amount of fuel ... of couse you have to remember to reset the meter everytime you fill up.

I also try to manually figure out what the max burn rate is and use the 1/3 rule .... 1/3 out, 1/3 back, 1/3 reserve.

Tige MD .... if fuel gauges as such an issue then why the hell doesn't Tige or another other boat manufacturers do something about it. It's not like these are inexpensive toys or that boat purchasers are going to grind out a few more bucks. I mean most people who can afford these toys can probably spend a couple of hundred bucks more on a fuel meter. I think the whole industry is missing something here if nearly every owner is complaining.

[smendez]

Canucktige:

You can't just add the fuel meter option to your current gauges without giving something else up.

Check Page 5 of this very same thread and you'll see why.

Saulo

[Gardyloo03]

If you have perfect pass you dont lose anything, there is an option on it for air and water temp. So you just run the fuel flow on the faria guage and air and water on the perfect pass gauge. Atleast so ive been told.

[canuck]

smendez:

I have a 2005 22i and in the Faria manuals it specifically refers to the "fuel management" options. It will display -

Fuel used
Total fuel used
Fuel remaining

and it is displayed in the LCD as part of the engine hours display.

You toggle thru the engine hours into the fuel management display.

You do not lose any of the water or air temp displays.

On page 12 of the manual it show the order of the display as:

Water Temp
Ambient Air Temp
Fuel Level
Engine Hours

It requires the Harness HN0354 as well as a Fuel Flow Transducer.

I certainly hope that this is a new option in the 2005 Faria guages.

The manual reference is IS0137.

Tige MD can you shed any light on this. I'm going to try and order it from my dealer this week. I have a feeling it's going to cost major $$$$'s.

[smendez]

Canuck:

Call Faria at 860-848-9271 directly and probe them.

I was told that I couldn't do it on my 2003 gauges, even though I found the same references you mention in the manual. Maybe they have changed something since.

Keep us posted, I'd be very interested in finding out about this.

Saulo

[xpjim1]

My manual reference is ISO 128 dated 8/04. On page 12 it states fuel level based on level sender. This is not part of the fuel management which requires the transducer. I cannot find ISO 137 on the Faria website

[canucktige]

Here is hopefully the correct information on Faria instruments:

You can get a meter with Tach / Fuel flow / Air&water temp / Hr meter - it does not come in a style that matches the Tige guages. As the very helpful Faria rep said "it's not even remotely close in style".

You can get a meter with Tach / Fuel flow / Hr meter (TJ1008) - again it does not match the existing Tige guages but is a lot closer in style with the main difference being the bezel (sp?).

Our existing meter is not capable of displaying anything other than Tach / Air&water temp / Hr meter.

They do have a separate 2" guage that matches our Tige instruments with the fuel flow information. The MSRP is US$240 including the fuel flow transducer.

I was also advised that Faria is working with Indmar, PCM and I think Marine Power to produce a set of instruments that relay information directly from the Engine Management System via a direct plug into the engine. This would be identical to what is available in even the cheapest automobiles and would offer complete engine diagnosis as well as the fuel flow information we are craving.

If you wanted to spend the $$$'s you could upgrade all of your instruments to this new system. It would involve changing all of your guages but the install would be very simple as the instruments all daisy chain back into the ECM.

The rep said it would not be available to some in the next model year but more likely in the next two years.

I think that I am going to try and install the separate fuel flow meter into my boat for now.

[TeamAllen]

Could this be solution to the fuel gauge problem? I found this post at Wakesiderides.com. I hope this helps! It also shows other boat manufacturers have the same problem.

[jciscott]

gas guage on my 2100v

mine hangs around full for 2 hours then dives like Greg Luganis (sp?)

I use 4.5 - 5.5 GPH all the time, skiing, boarding , tubing, whatever,,,,, so I go by the hour meter, 6 hours is time for gas.......

[JASON739]

Harvey, you know there is a better answer.
M.D., way to get after that possible fuel flow meter sale.

Unless there has been a change in the "I" models the tank sits across the back of the boat under the storage compartment. The sending unit is passenger side. The only time there is a variance is during a turn or a pretty major list to either side. After installing the proper unit mine has worked very well. Believe me, I am the king of drifting to the pump.
None of the units sent to me had the external float arm. I will look through all my post regarding this issue and cross check part numbers and such again.
Bottom line is your guage will work very well with the proper sender/tank setup.

[dogbert]

That's pretty much what the post on wakesiderides said as well, except they were talking about Malibu boats. This ought to be a simple problem for Tige to prevent in the future because it appears to affect certain year model boats. Most likely, there's been a change in a supplier or the supplier changed the product. It really sounds like the tank/sender setup began having problems in certain year model boats. Tige should go and figure out what's different between the set-ups so that they can change it going forward. Obviously, adding a fuel flow meter as standard equipment would be a better option.

Anybody from Tige Product Management reading this?

[b1az]

fuel guage

mine always shows full. i have ran out of fuel before because of it

[Tige M.D.]

i can't believe this thread is still going

it's taking on a life of it's own.

[dogbert]

We're going for the record...thanks for helping us out