Just an ignorant question on my part. Been lookin to put a sub in the boat. I've seen many set-ups, but am not sure as to if they were all enclosed or not. So, do subs need to be enclosed or not? advantages, disadvantages?
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send a PM to chpthril, he can answer all your questions"I feel sorry for people that don't drink, when they wake up in the morning, that's as good as they're gonna feel all day" - Frank Sinatra -
In general.... ( I do not want to write a book, I have already on this elsewhere) subs will work better in enclosures.
That being said, there are many that work just fine without an enclosure and are designed to not have a box on the back of them. All they require is that the sound coming off the back of the woofer be sufficiently blocked to not mix with the sound coming from the front of the woofer.
Under a seat, on a storage compartment wall, etc...; these are a few mounting locations that tend to work.
Typically the advantages for using a woofer in an enclosure include better power handling, better low-end extension, and not having your "boat stuff" (life jackets, tow ropes, other stuff) bang into the back of the cone.
The advantages of "free-air" mounting include not losing space for "boat stuff", (prevent them from hitting the woofer though) and a slightly easier installation.
That is a very quick comparison. If you really want to dive into it, there is a thread somewhere down below that I think was running in about April or MAy of last year that really dives into the guts of the topic. Let me go find it and post a link...It's not an optical illusion.
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go look at this and see what you can glean from it:
http://www.tigeowners.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3787It's not an optical illusion.
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I've installed quite a few of the WetSounds and Kicker 10" "free-air" subs and have no complaints. If you want a great sounding system with a nice "bump" and dont want to spend a boat load
and loose a lot of valuable storage space, these are the way to go.
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thanks for the input guys. The kicker is the reason i was asking b/c i saw one on ebay. I hate to spend too much b/c i intend to purchase an rz series next yr.
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Which Kicker sub and how much if you dont mind me asking the price?Mikes Liquid Audio: Knowledge Experience Customer Service you can trust-KICKER WetSounds ACME props FlyHigh Custom Ballast Clarion LiquidLumens LEDs Roswell Wave Deflector And MoreComment
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and also, that link to the previous thread was very informative...much thanksI'm full of tomfulleryComment
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it was a pair of 8" mid bass drivers. I will definately need a larger single when i drop the bomb but these just got me to thinkin bout it.
http://cgi.ebay.com/PAIR-KICKER-8-MI...QQcmdZViewItemLast edited by yellow3; 08-19-2008, 02:34 AM.I'm full of tomfulleryComment
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Those really aren't going to hit like a single sub.
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Hey, you know what, I need to point something out, and CHP's post allows explanation.
Go to the RZ2 / Comp 12 thread. Scroll down and study the pictures. In a few where we see the box installation, notice that we also see the back of a component or coaxial speaker....
In a situation where you intend to install a free air subwoofer, it is best NOT to have a full range compoonent or coax speaker sharing the same space behind the woofer. The reasoning is that there is pressure that is created on both sides of the woofer. The goal is to have the pressure from the front of the woofer show up at our ears as sound. The pressure off of the back of the woofer is damped/absorbed by whatever stuff is on the back side of the woofer.
When you put another speaker in a woofer's free-air space, the woofer will tend to modulate the other speaker. I.e. the woofer's back-side pressure will act on the back side of the other speaker and push it in and out.
The effect varies, but in general, it will react in a less than pleasing manner. It will always be a good idea not to have a full-range speaker sharing the space of a woofer but if you do it, it helps to put something over the back of the midrange to seal it from the woofer. I have see something as simple as a tupperware bowl poaced over the back of the mid.
Just a little extra tip that I think some of you will benefit from...It's not an optical illusion.
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Good point, if you have a situation where the two speakers really have to share the same volume (like I do) you can get ABS plastic speaker baffles for the component or coaxial speakers to "shield" them from the sub , that also works pretty well.
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