I would probably split it down the middle and use the 850.4.
Tim, CHP?
Tim, CHP?
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Last edited by philwsailz; 03-19-2008, 04:26 PM.It's not an optical illusion.
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If it were me, that is what I would do. I run the ZX700.5 for my cabins w/same sub, and the zx350.4 for 4 Kicker KS650.2 component towers and I'm very pleased with the setup.Originally posted by DieselPWR View Post
700.5 for either 4 or 6 cabin speakers, and the comp VR 10" sub
850.4 for the Pro80"s and Pro 60's.
One word of caution - your dealer needs to run 1 speaker wire pair per speaker. They may say it cant be done but it can, I've done it. There is a good chance the tower will be pre-wired with 2 speaker wires, make sure they run 2 more.Mikes Liquid Audio: Knowledge Experience Customer Service you can trust-KICKER WetSounds ACME props FlyHigh Custom Ballast Clarion LiquidLumens LEDs Roswell Wave Deflector And MoreComment
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Thanks! dieselpwr - sorry for the thread hijack! I'm sure Bill, Corey and Frank (the WWS crew) will get you hooked up properly.Originally posted by philwsailz View PostComment
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No worries, it was no hijack. I appreciate your help chpthril.Originally posted by Timmy! View PostComment
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Whats the reasoning for the extra set of wires? I am if they did do that and i asked to change it, they would wonder why i asked that.Originally posted by chpthril View PostComment
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Originally posted by DieselPWR View Post
You will then be in a 2ohm load situation with the speakers wired in parallel (+ to + and - to -) and then bridged at the amp. As I learned on my factory setup, it is rough on the amps.
Phil can give a much better explanation on this, but per his advise, I rewired mine and couldn't be happier.Mikes Liquid Audio: Knowledge Experience Customer Service you can trust-KICKER WetSounds ACME props FlyHigh Custom Ballast Clarion LiquidLumens LEDs Roswell Wave Deflector And MoreComment
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Real simply:Originally posted by chpthril View Post
You are hanging a total of four speakers. You are using a four channel amp.
The best way to go is to have each speaker on its own amp channel. There are two sets of wires in the tower now, but you want to run four speakers. To get each speaker to its own amp channel, you need to have four sets of speaker wires, (4 speakers, 4 channels, 4 wires).
Without adding the wire, you have to bridge the amp so that it is operating in two channel mode, due to the fact that there are only two sets of wires. In two channel mode, the amp does not want to see lower than 4-ohms on each half of the amp, as each of the four channels shares half of the combined load presented, and two ohms is as low as any indivudual amp channel wants to drive.
You have four speakers, but you cannot put them in parallel, as that will result in a 2-ohm load presented to each half of the amp. The two ohm load is shared by a pair of amp channels brideged together and each of the individual channels sees half the total load, resulting in a one-ohm load on each individual amp channel. That is way too low of an impedance for a four-channel amp in bridge mode. The only way around it is to wire each speaker pair in series up to an 8 ohm load.
Is you head spinning yet?
Here this is easy:
4 speakers, 4 channel amp. 4 sets of wires. That is a safe reliable easy way to go. Add a pair of wires and call it a day!
Last edited by philwsailz; 03-19-2008, 04:41 PM.It's not an optical illusion.
It just looks like one.....Comment
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DieselPWR so what is the status on your setup...Originally posted by DieselPWR View Post
You got me wondering now as WWS is doing the same Kicker AMP for my setup....(Mb8s and 60s and sub and 6 in cabins etc)...
Let me know I will talk with Corey as well....Last edited by buffman; 03-19-2008, 06:43 PM.Work Hard, Play HarderComment
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Wow Corey is going to love me after this. The 700.5 is only powering your mb8, 60s and sub. Your in cabin speakers are not being amplified with that set up.Originally posted by buffman View PostComment
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Yes, You are correct!
700.5 for either 4 or 6 cabin speakers, and the comp VR 10" sub
850.4 for the Pro80"s and Pro 60's.
700.5 for either 4 or 6 cabin speakers, and the comp VR 10" sub
650.4 for the Pro60"s and MB-8's would be OK as well.
Tim
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Originally posted by buffman View Post
I trust them as well. It just odd that a wetsounds rep, a kicker rep, an actual tige rep, and several tige owners tells me something different. (i've called wetsounds and tige and it sounds like there is a kicker and wetsounds rep on this thread). On top of that my own personnel intution and experience with home/mobile audio systems tells me that doesn't sound right.
I wasn't going to amp the cabin speaks originally so i think i am going to run the 700.5 for the in cabin speakers and the sub, and just go with the 650.4 for the two pair of tower speakers. WWS really feels the 650.4 is more then enough for the tower speakers and the 850.4 is overkill. Its a little more to add that amp, but makes more sense to me. Can always upgrade down the road.Comment
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Cool I know Corey will do whatever you want so good luck...
Hope you got the dual battery setup @ a minmum as more amps equal more juice and less battery time etc.
Sure we will see ya around and let us know how it works out for ya!Work Hard, Play HarderComment
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I would recommend a third battery....
two for the system and one to start boatPut your hand on a hot stove for a minute, and it seems like an hour. Sit with a pretty girl for an hour, and it seems like a minute. THAT'S relativity. Albert EinsteinComment
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