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**chpthril** · 02-24-2016, 01:11 PM

Are you spec'ing out a boat to build or is this boat off the dealer's lot and already has a complete stereo system installed with the Syn-6 and Syn-2 amps?

An SD-2 is the ideal amp for Rev-10, especially if a 2nd pair is a possibility.

The SD-6 has a potential of right at 600W rms for a woofer. This about the same wattage as the Syn-6 will deliver to a woofer. The difference between the Syn-6 and SD-6 is going to be on the 4 full range chnl wattage. The Syn-6 will deliver about 60W rms for the in-boats where as the SD-6 has a potential of up to 145 which is pushing an xs-650 to their potential. tuned optimally, the Syn-6 and 3 pair of xs-650 isa great setup.

I would consider just swapping the tower Syn-2 for a Syn-4, if you want to keep a symmetrical look.

No, you dont want the woofer in the port locker. Needs to be under the helm and yes, its harder work with the heater there.

For the xs-xxxv2, you want 1000W rms or more like from the SD-2, Kicker KX2400.2 or jl HDM1200.

The xs-12, jl 12w3 or kicker CompVR122 would be good matches for the available 600W rms from either the Syn-6 or the SD-6

**cbath** · 02-24-2016, 03:49 PM

Thanks chpthril, I was hoping you would respond since you are the man when it comes to stereo and ballast.

We're building the boat, colors are picked and options are picked, just figuring out the stereo and trying to leave myself some wiggle room in case I do decide to go with a second set of REV10's in the future... Dealer is a wet sounds distributor/dealer so I believe they are just going to order the tower pre-wired and do the install in house, which works for me in case I do decide on a second set of towers, I won't have to pay Tige's mark up to get the beauty collars to match.

I will look into the subs you have mentioned, I kind of thought I would be shy of the XXX's requirements.

As it stands, I will stick with the SD6 and SD2 and most likely the JL audio sub.

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**chpthril** · 02-24-2016, 04:19 PM

We're building the boat, colors are picked and options are picked, just figuring out the stereo

Head unit and 4 in-boats and DONE!!!!!!!! Dont get anything else, dont mess with trading in used amp, dont mess with having to rewire cause the amps are different, etc. Get the base system and build from there, period.

Dont pay to prewire the tower with wire that needs to be yanked out. Tige uses 16ga, last I saw on a 15. For an SD-2 amp, I suggest 12ga 2-conductor for each pod. The factory wiring will get you two 2-cons for 4 pods.

so I believe they are just going to order the tower pre-wired and do the install in house, which works for me in case I do decide on a second set of towers, I won't have to pay Tige's mark up to get the beauty collars to match

I may be misreading this. Just an FYI, the beauty collars from tige only come when you buy the speaker pair from tige. They dont come as part of the pre-wire option. So, if you wanted to add a 2nd set, you would be buying the speakers from tige to get the collars. gain this may have changed recently, but otherwise, Tige will not sell the collars separately.

**cbath** · 02-25-2016, 02:32 AM

I may be misreading this. Just an FYI, the beauty collars from tige only come when you buy the speaker pair from tige. They dont come as part of the pre-wire option. So, if you wanted to add a 2nd set, you would be buying the speakers from tige to get the collars. gain this may have changed recently, but otherwise, Tige will not sell the collars separately.[/QUOTE]

That is my understanding as well, I'd prefer to not buy the REV 10's from Tige so that in the future I can pick up another set without the beauty collars and they'll match. Thanks again Chpthril, will probably be in contact soon for a ballast system for a friend of he ever pulls the trigger on the 24ve he's been looking at..

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**smithjd11** · 02-25-2016, 03:56 AM

So I am looking to order a RZX soon and it has the same set up but have 6 808's for in boats and the 10 inch sub and i was going with just one pair of Rev 10's so my question is are the SYN 2 and SYN 6 amps it comes with not going to give me optimal power to this set-up and what would be your recommendation. Thanks

**chpthril** · 02-25-2016, 01:46 PM

Smith,

Double check the amp offering. I know that with the ASR, the SD amps are an option.

On to your question. I would do a pair of SD-6 for that setup, providing you are not planning on a 2nd set of tower pods in the future.

**smithjd11** · 02-25-2016, 02:12 PM

Just doubled checked and the RZX does have the SD 6 for the sub and the 808's and a SD 2 for the Rev 10's so are you saying the Rev 10's need little more juice than the SD 2 can deliver? Thanks again.

**chpthril** · 02-25-2016, 02:19 PM

if building from scratch, I like the twin SD-6 for that speaker setup, but since your boat does have the SD-6 and SD-2 amps, then no, no more wattage is needed. The SD-2 is going to deliver 400W rms to each rev-10. Thats about what we would tune the SD-6 to deliver anyway. I like the SD-2 for the tower speaker because it allows for a nearly plug-n-play upgrade to add a 2nd set of speaker later.

**smithjd11** · 02-25-2016, 02:24 PM

Originally posted by chpthril View Post

if building from scratch, I like the twin SD-6 for that speaker setup, but since your boat does have the SD-6 and SD-2 amps, then no, no more wattage is needed. The SD-2 is going to deliver 400W rms to each rev-10. Thats about what we would tune the SD-6 to deliver anyway. I like the SD-2 for the tower speaker because it allows for a nearly plug-n-play upgrade to add a 2nd set of speaker later.

Thanks again Mike for the info and advice it's appreciated!!

**Jwolfe** · 03-09-2016, 09:10 PM

I'm trying to figure out what to do with my new 2016 Z3.... I would like more bass as I feel it doesn't sound very good right now. The sub has a Syn-6 powering it and I've been told that I should upgrade that amp to a bigger one first before adding another free air sub? Chpthril, what are your thoughts?

**chpthril** · 03-09-2016, 11:45 PM

Jwolf,

No need for a bigger (more powerful) amp. Youve got an amp that has a potential of 600W rms. Thats plenty of wattage for a moderate woofer.

1st, have you found the sub level knob over on the helm? They have been known to be hidden and turned down.

Next, you need to make sure that the back of the woofer is open to the cavity in front of the the helm. This has been an issue in the past couple years and I dont know for sure it its been address in the 2016 model. if that woofer is closed up in a small cavity, it really hurts its performance.

Last, revisit the amp tuning.

The issue with adding a 2nd xs-10fa, is that your current OEM woofer is most likely a single coil 4 ohm. You would have to actually purchase 2 new ones in order to be able to achieve the ideal impedance in order to properly bridge the amp as it is now and take advantage of its 600W rms.

**Jwolfe** · 03-10-2016, 09:41 PM

Thanks for the info. Yes the amp is turned up and I have tuned it. I just would like some more bass as I feel t's mostly treble and mid sounds that I hear.

**chpthril** · 03-10-2016, 09:48 PM

Then I would refer to step #2 above. Check out the first two pics on this post. http://www.tigeowners.com/forum/show...052#post755052

Where are the in-boats and sub crossed over? May need to gain down the in-boats in order to give the woofer a slight volume advantage and bring back some balance.

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