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    #16
    sandm,
    As a one time Exile vendor, I initially approached the line with an open mind and was actually extremely optimistic about the future of the product/brand. But then I began to experience issues and recognize conflicts that raised too many questions. So I began looking deeper than the surface and beyond the considerable Exile 'hype' machine at work.
    I just happen to be one of those people who does know the difference because I know how products work on the inside and have 35 years of industry experience. And what I found was an incredible amount of deception. The over-stated amplifier power specs are a perfect example. Here is just one example.
    Exile at one time had a x800.4 that was a legit 800 watt 4-channel amplifier. It had twin power supplies and 120 amps of fusing. Later, Exile replaced the amplifier with a xi800.4 which maintained the same model designation and 800 watt rating. The new xi800.4 is smaller, weighs less, has half the power supply and half the fusing capacity. And just like the Harpoon, it didn't sound like it met spec as compared to competing products. So we tested it and found it to be a 440 watt RMS amplifier (4x110) @ 2-ohms....and not 800 watts. So we sent all the amplifiers off to a highly respected and independent lab, even though our test equipment is way more than adequate, and the lab's results confirmed our tests.
    I don't carelessly make statements without being able to back them up.
    Contact me for those test results or a deeper understanding if you feel you need to.
    I can tell you that there is a number of once Exile dealers that have come to the same realization.

    David
    www.earmarkmarine.com

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      #17
      The Exile bitterness continues I guess There are only a few members on this site that use Exile product and for the most part we have all be pleased with the customer service and product so you really don't have an audience to impress or sway to another product here.

      I was once pretty brand passionate and most of us in the Northwest have had very good service and relationships with Exile due to their close proximity. I also am familiar with the fact that Earmark and Chpthril used to be Exile dealers and to which side I believe as to why you are no longer dealers really doesn't concern me.

      Its not like Exile was my first tower speaker I ever used in fact Bullet hollowpoint 770's were my first, its not like I haven't surfed or been in boats that have rev 8's or 10's Its not like they all sound night and day different Whether your technical data and independent testing are true once again doesn't mean a thing to me. I have been happy with the sound quality of the product and quality of construction. I also believe Wetsounds, and Kicker make great products and would be happy to use any of those products in the future but do we all need to be the same? Maybe I should thank Exile for underpowering all their amps because if it was true power everyone riding in or behind my boat would be deaf

      I have moved on from my "drama phase" with Chpthril as he is a contributing member of this site, gives all great advice and is an all-around good guy

      So Earmark while we are here and you have at least one happy Exile owner's attention why don't you continue to bash my ZLD, My Hybrid tower system, my Exile in-boats, my xi1500.1, my xi800.4 my xi12d, and my under rated Harpoon amp that has never in 3 seasons had a thermal shut down and then you can go away and leave Chpthril to give Tige Owners advice

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        #18
        majestic,
        I stated only facts that I can fully support. If called on the carpet to produce proof or substantiation then I am happy to comply.
        I respect your independent opinions and experiences. I have no desire to turn this into something personal or to squelch your contribution.
        Please do not attack me in an effort to squelch my opinion. It will not work.
        Thank you.

        David
        www.earmarkmarine.com

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          #19
          Originally posted by ds@earmark View Post
          majestic,
          I stated only facts that I can fully support. If called on the carpet to produce proof or substantiation then I am happy to comply.
          I respect your independent opinions and experiences. I have no desire to turn this into something personal or to squelch your contribution.
          Please do not attack me in an effort to squelch my opinion. It will not work.
          Thank you.

          David
          I was not my intention to "attack you" if thats the way it came across.

          It is just MY perception that you go out of you way on every site I have seen you on to not only provide your opinion as it relates to Exile but to go above and beyond that, it just doesn't seem necessary The OP asked for an opinion on a volume/fader which then turned into an opinion on other products including the ZLD where you then had to provide your opinions on Exile as a company in post #16. No one called you on the carpet and asked for that!

          Exile is not a contender here so if you want to sway purchases from Exile you are wasting energy. Maybe the Bu crew would serve as a better site for that *NOT A PERSONAL ATTACK*

          Sorry for the hijack Dave K middle of winter cooped up too long post

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