Planning new system - Need advice!

[kko]

I have not heard the Icons so I cant not give you an honest answer on how they perform. Sorry.
They are wetsounds so how bad can they be!!
Looking into them they sound great for the sandbar and surfing...but I bet they are not much better than what you have now @ wakeboarding distance. IMPO again never heard them.

[mdk681]

Yes you can wire them is series..Its not the best config. for max power but it would work. Of course a 4ch amp is the best answer but I was trying to use what you have so you could save your money for a true tower set up.
Do you have speakers in the bow or are all 4 in the rear of the boat.

2 are up front in the bow, and the other 2 are in the rear

[kko]

[QUOTE=Bruizza;635226]Buy this guys XS 12 sub it is a steal for the price he is offering.
BOOM!! Great call! I forgot about that deal on here!! Yes buy this!! Its a great deal on a great sub.

[kko]

Yes. Based on its advertised output, it would deliver 150W rms to each speaker with a pair wired in parallel (+ to +/- to -) to each chnl.

ASKING....wouldnt this be a 2ohm load and is the amp cable of that?????????????????????????????????????????????? ??????????

[chpthril]

Not to cost anyone a sale, but that 4 ohm DVC XS-12 will lock you into either a hybrid 5 chnl or a dedicated mono sub amp. Just and FYI.

[chpthril]

ASKING....wouldnt this be a 2ohm load and is the amp cable of that?????????????????????????????????????????????? ??????????

Its advertised at 300W rms x 2 @ 2 ohm, so yes.

[kko]

Its advertised at 300W rms x 2 @ 2 ohm, so yes.

LOL I went ahead and looked it up. I dint think it would be but I should have checked..I got lazy!! So thats the way to go for sure EFFF series run that bitch in parallel!! Hope it holds!

[kko]

Not to cost anyone a sale, but that 4 ohm DVC XS-12 will lock you into either a hybrid 5 chnl or a dedicated mono sub amp. Just and FYI.

Yes but he is going to have to get an amp for any sub so why not. Buy the sub pair it with an HT1=money! Right?

[kko]

Why wont an HT2 work 575rms @4ohms mono? Sub calls for 500Rms @4ohms. What am I missing?

[Bruizza]

Dal 4 ohm sub can only be run at 2 ohms or 8 ohms.

[kko]

Well I am confused as hell. Why dont they show a wiring for the DVC XS12. Is that an older speaker. I dont remember having that problem on the one I installed. It was just a month or so ago and I dont remember it being a DVC. So I nust have installed a XS12 S4. Yeah that must be it....not sure I would want the DVC X12 .

[kko]

Dal 4 ohm sub can only be run at 2 ohms or 8 ohms.

Ok but the HT1 would still work for this right? 600 x 1 @2ohms

[chpthril]

Yes but he is going to have to get an amp for any sub so why not. Buy the sub pair it with an HT1=money! Right?

Exactly. And the configuration of that 4 ohm DVC Sub will greatly effect his future amp choice. That sub can only be configure to 2 or 8 ohm. 8 ohm will not net you any power from an amp, so that leaves him 2 ohm. Odds are he will not find a 2 or 4 chnl amp that will allow him to bridge that 2 ohm load. So this leaves his choices at either a 5 chnl hybrid that 2 ohm stable or a dedicated mono sub amp.

I just wanted to OP to be aware of path this sub configuration would steer him, as it can effect both amp cost and number of total amps used in the system.

And yes, for the older 2 ohm DVC XS-12 or the new 4 ohm SVC XS-12, the HT-2 is perfect power.

[mdk681]

Exactly. And the configuration of that 4 ohm DVC Sub will greatly effect his future amp choice. That sub can only be configure to 2 or 8 ohm. 8 ohm will not net you any power from an amp, so that leaves him 2 ohm. Odds are he will not find a 2 or 4 chnl amp that will allow him to bridge that 2 ohm load. So this leaves his choices at either a 5 chnl hybrid that 2 ohm stable or a dedicated mono sub amp.

I just wanted to OP to be aware of path this sub configuration would steer him, as it can effect both amp cost and number of total amps used in the system.

And yes, for the older 2 ohm DVC XS-12 or the new 4 ohm SVC XS-12, the HT-2 is perfect power.

Thanks for the clairification. It appears that this sub probably won't be the best option for what I am looking to accomplish after all, even though it seems to be a great deal.

So after thinking a bit last night, I like the idea of going with 4 of the XS650's for the in boat solution and wiring it to use my current ZX6000 amp to keep costs reasonable.

As far as towers and a sub go, I think that the ICON 8's might be worth investigating more. They seem to get great reviews, and do what I want to get out of a pair of tower speakers. Keeping my focus on in-boat and surfing listening, and also being able to do OK at a wakeboard distance. Mine current speakers are decent for wakeboarding now, so anything close to the same will suffice.

Having run JL 12w3v2's a few years ago, I think that sticking with the new 12w3v3 might be a good idea. I loved the SQ of these drivers, plus the ability to really boom when I want them to. I was thinking about going with a sealed enclosure under the drivers console. It appears that there is plenty of space for a box to fit in the storage console, so I am thinking about cutting a square out and front loading the enclosure.

Would it be possible to find 2 amps small enough, or 1 big amp to power the pair of ICON 8's and the 12w3? Any reccomendations on amps that are affordable that could work? I see this getting expensive quick so if I could keep the amps at a reasonable cost that might be best.

[chpthril]

Would it be possible to find 2 amps small enough, or 1 big amp to power the pair of ICON 8's and the 12w3? Any reccomendations on amps that are affordable that could work? I see this getting expensive quick so if I could keep the amps at a reasonable cost that might be best.

My short list of Hybrid amps that would deliver sufficient power to your sub choice and either work in 3 chnl mode with the Icon's bridged on the 4 full-range chnls or with the 2 pair of in-boats wired 1 p/chnl would be:
Wet Sounds Syn-6 or HT-6
ARC Audio KS-900.6 or XDi-805
Kicker IX1000.5, zxm/zx700.5 or DX600.5
Alpine MRX-V70, PDX-V9 or PDX-5M
JL Audio MHD900/5 or M700.5

There are quite a few 4 chnl amp that would deliver sufficient power to a sub and 2 pair of in-boats when run in 3 chnl mode, but not many that will deliver the power I think you are going to need for the Icons to meet your goals. Your current 2 chnl is good power for the Icons, and would allow you to add a 2nd pair with very little rewiring. Placing the towers on an amp with sub limits you to only a single pair of towers without making an amp change a significant rewire.