Exile XM7 vs Wetsounds Pro80

[Chill0987]

How does the Exile XM7 compare to the Wetsounds Pro80 when it comes to in boat experience, rider performance, long range sound?

They are roughly the same price, but I do like the quick disconnect of the Exile. It makes for easy security when not at the lakehouse.

[wetsounds1]

The xm-7 is a 6.5 inch speaker. The PRO 80 is an 8 inch speaker. Our PRO 60 is a 6.5 inch speaker.

The PRO 80 has A LOT more output. Larger cone area results in more output and mid bass.

We have our new Revolution series speakers shipping soon. With a full swivel-quick disconnect clamp option that also allows you to run Led's through the clamp. The power wire to the speaker and led wires all run through the center of the clamp.

There are some threads on wakeworld with pictures and feedback from some who have heard them. The REV 8 and REV 10. The REV 8 is an 8 inch driver in our PRO 60 sized housing. The REV 10 is a 10 inch driver in our PRO 80 sized housing.

I would recommend the REV 8 with the swivel clamps. It gets you the output, small housing size and quick disconnect. Our new Revolution technology represents the pinnacle in wakeboard tower speaker design. Extreme output and unmatched sound quality.

The REV 8 are shipping next week and the REV 10 in about 4 weeks

Tim
Wet Sounds

[wetsounds1]

http://www.wakeworld.com/forum/showthread.php?t=787480

http://www.wakeworld.com/forum/showthread.php?t=787049

http://www.wakeworld.com/forum/showthread.php?t=787314

Tim
Wet Sounds

[Brianinpdx]

Chill0987 -

Tim has it close to right... The XM7 beats a pro60 not a pro80. The XM7, will free spin in 360 degrees, has thumb screw quick disconnect and comes with sox that protect the speaker from bugs and double as storage covers with built in handles. The WS does not. I believe the wetsounds sox cost you an extra 80 dollars. Exile products come with a 2 year warranty. WS comes with a 1 year warranty.

Moving up to the Pro80 versus the XM7, Exile is 150.00 less but now your comparing apples to oranges. If you wanted to compare based on prices, you should take a look at The XM9 which will give you more cone area than a pro80 and costs slightly less than their new Rev8.

XM9 Info here

I think the underlying question you need to ask, is, "Do you want a large diameter speaker on your tower or do you want compact fit and finish." The XM9 is slightly larger than the XM7 enclosure, smaller than a pro80/rev 8 enclosure. We accomplished this with some very unique design execution. But hey, its still big.

My suggestion would be to take a look at your whole system. Generally speaking if guys are running advanced sub-woofer upgrades they often prefer a compact tower setup to save on headroom. But the opposite can be true as well... If you have no sub in your boat, you might want to look at putting a larger tower speaker into the mix.

Both brands are good ones. As shown above, I think Exile brings more value to the table. It doesn't mean anyone is better than the other. It's about choices and budget. Let me know if you have questions.

Cheers!

-Brian
Exile Audio

[philwsailz]

Skip the debate and just buy Kicker...
( notice I am not attacking either brand )


Ask and I will share the benefits without subjective comparisons...
Phil
Kicker

[wetsounds1]

Wow Brian. You should take a look at my posts and Phil’s posts on these sites. You will see that we always steer clear of direct comparisons and speak of our own products and not others. We do not claim what is “best” even though we would like to. I speak of the merits of mine and do not make comments about what is better than what. I let our products performance speak for itself. There is a reason why we are the number one wakeboard tower speaker company in the world and our slogan is “Hearing is Believing”

You also gave some misinformation. Our Rev 8 speaker is the same housing as a PRO 60. (not a pro 80) So with the new REV 8 you get a true 8 inch mid bass in the smaller housing. This housing size is the same as the Pro 60 so more in line with the size of your XM-7, 6.5 inch speaker. The REV 10 is the same housing as the PRO 80. So it offers a true 10 inch mid bass driver in the larger housing size more in line with your XM-9, 8 inch or 9 inch type speaker(not quite sure what it is)

Also, just so some who read this are clear. Cone area is only one point to an equation. More cone area gained by sacrificing the surround thickness, gains cone area but you lose excursion as you have a thin surround. You then have less excursion and less output. You still need excursion to generate output and mid bass especially at louder volumes. There are always trade offs.

Also as far as pricing goes. A Pro 60 is $799 a pair. Our Pro 80 is $999 a pair. The REV 8 with fixed clamp is $999 pr and with swivel clamp is $1099. The REV 10 is $1149 with the fixed clamp and $1249 with the swivel clamp. Your pricing as I have seen listed for sale are XM-7 is $849 and XM-9 is $1099

So looks like the REV 8 with swivel clamps is $1099 and the XM-9 is $1099. You may have just had our model numbers mixed up, just wanted to clear that up.

Chill asked some specific questions about sound as well. I chose not to give any direct comparisons as I just don’t think it would be fair. But I would be happy to provide spl tests that compare. In fact someone made a post on wakeworld saying it would be cool if someone did a 3rd party independent test to compares the tower speakers. I jumped on and made a challenge that I would be happy to participate in a 3rd party test. You were on the post before but never responded in my offer. So I make it again, I am open to do a 3rd party test. Are you? I would like to do the industry standard 1watt/1 meter curves, 80 feet back spl tests, power handling tests and build quality evaluation. I would also be open to do a UV tests for the paint and salt spray tests for the clamps and entire housing. You interested?

When evaluating a product. To me, I look at the build quality and the sound quality and output. Materials used. For instance we use stainless steel for our clamps, stainless steel for our grille overlays, large crossovers and high tolerance parts, large 12 and 14 ga speaker wire internally on the speakers, reinforced composite housings, fiberglass internal support structure, advanced composite cone materials, extra large tinsel leads etc….

Chill, let me know where you are located at. I will be happy to provide a local dealer that you can go look and listen to the speakers. Take them all apart and evaluate. Sorry that your posts got turned into a contest like this but it seems they always do.

Tim
Wet Sounds

[Jloflin420]

WetSound is def the way to go!!! Just wish they had the white pods in stock so my order will come in

[lohe]

I have not heared the other speakers to compare, but I have a pair of WS pro80's on my tower and couldn't be happier with them.

[Dan and Christy]

Calm down everyone, I have the perfect way to solve this. Tim, Brian, and Phil all need to show up to the Lake Mead Tige Owners Reunion this year to show us what they have and we can all be the judges!!!

DONE AND DONE

[Chill0987]

Thanks for all of the info. I really appreciate it. Tim, I would love to know where I could go hear both of these side by side. I am in Houston, Tx. How quick can I disconnect the REV series speaker with the swivel mounts? Do they require tools to connect and disconnect? Will the integrity of the mount be jeprodized by the constant connect and disconnect? Thanks for all of the input. Its nice to see so much energy going into tower speaker discussion. It is clear that the market is evolving and big players are being produced.

[ds@earmark]

IMO, its inappropriate for one manufacturer to comment on another manufacturer's product or to make such direct comparisons in an open forum. Advertising agencies may create such ploys but it shouldn't be done personally by direct company representatives. Kia might compare themselves to a Mercedes because that elevates Kia's image but you would never see the car builder with a top mindshare position introducing a secondary brand into the discussion. However, it may be particularly revealing about the one who does it. Keep in mind that manufacturers have but a single proposition so its the worse case of owners goggles you will find and hardly objective. Ever heard a manufacturer that admitted that they don't do everything the best? They all can't simultaneously be the master of every category and the best at everything can they? Can you imagine if Mike's Liquid Audio and Earmark Marine debated who did the best installation on this forum? We might discuss contrasting opinions on technicalities but we would never make public commentary on the other's services or final product even if we found something that ran contrary to our belief. It just never happens.
Certainly you can't fault someone who is put in a defensive posture that has to correct a false statement. I wouldn't be silent either and allow that perception to stand especially if I didn't have much of an option to pick the time and place in that case. Just thinking out loud.

David
Earmark Marine

[wetsounds1]

Chill,

That is great. We are based in Houston. Our main office is on the southwest side. Shoot me an email to twhite@wetsounds.com or a PM and let me know what side of town you are on. I can get something set up with the closest dealer near you to make it easy.

The TC3 swivel clamp is a patent pending design that is very robust. It has a slide in fork mating system that bears the load and has an allen bolt that locks it into place. So it is a single bolt. We include a small t handle allen tool to throw in your glove box. (other quick disconnects also require an allen tool to lock into place)

Our clamp is made out of stainless steel. There is no chrome plating to flake off or strip easily over time by the constant connect and disconnect. So no worries there.

The speaker connection is in the center of the clamp with a 6 pin connector option allowing you to run up to RGB LED's all through the center of the clamp. So there are no wires visible and you can have color changing LED's going as you rotate your speaker.

So the time to remove the speakers is the time it takes to loosen a single bolt and slide back the fork and it's off.

Tim
Wet Sounds

[Brianinpdx]

Afternoon gentlemen.

I read through this thread today and came to the conclusion that David brought up a good point about commenting on brands. As my role in it goes, I probably shouldn't use the word "beats" as thats purely an opinion and people should always draw their own. But I have to say, Tim in your very first post, you directly compare Exile to WS and then follow it up with marketing speak about revolutionary technology and unmatched sound quality. I mean... Really? You say that you let your products speak for themselves Tim, but in-fact your speaking for gear that isnt on the market yet. I always prefer not to get into the next newest latest greatest thing coming down the pipe. The Op asked about specific products and you turned it into a whats latest greatest hype thread.

I'm sorry if this insults you. I really dont mean it to be. I meant what I said about both brands are good ones. Claims about #1 this and that are just ridiculous. I have no problem keeping it real if we all are going to be on the same page.

Exile info as follows:
2 year warranty
patented clamping system
sox included.
XM7 850
XM9 1100

Case closed.

Chill - If your interested in any Exile gear, we do a 30 day demo. Lets you play with the gear and audition it first hand. Shoot me a pm if interested.

Cheers everyone!

-Brian
Exile Audio

[wetsounds1]

Brian,

Your quote "I always prefer not to get into the next newest latest greatest thing coming down the pipe"

REALLY!! How long have you been talking/hyping up that XM-9? I think is has been a year now, right.....You even mention it in your post but it isn't shipping now is it.

So Brian. You still haven't answered me about a 3rd party test? That would then be case closed

Tim
Wet Sounds

PS: The REV 8 are NOW shipping. REV 10 on the way and be shipping in 4 weeks.

[robert theisen]

I think these two guys exchange Christmas cards too.LOL Okay ding ding ding!Round two.