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I am in favor of tuning TX into a wind farm! However I think we should be looking at smaller more decentralized green energy. Why can't we turn our rooftops into solar capture sites? Economic incentive to turn a good portion of the southern US into a collective solar/ wind farm. Centralizing our resources seems to lead to corporate greed, and opens us up to attack on our vital resources. Imho."I want to know God's thoughts, the rest are just details"
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Originally posted by G-MONEY View PostJust to add 1 point to your post, the California "renewable" energy market is going to explode.
This is a market I'm currently trying to get in to. Southern California Edison just signed the largest solar energy deal in history.
The time to get into a new gig is when it's at the bottem, we are there.
So I'm getting my mind right to find my in with energy.
for now I'm investing in friends, my child, my house and my health.
The slower pace is the best ever. I should have done this years ago.
less pay more money!? I do spend less for sure.....
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Tequila - They actually had a tax rebate for residential solar use here in NV that ended a couple of months ago. The state would give you X $ for every solar watt generated. The math just didn't calc out. I think we would have to be in our house for about 124 years before it panned out. I definitely think that is the beginning of the right path though.
Originally posted by Tequilasun View PostI am in favor of tuning TX into a wind farm! However I think we should be looking at smaller more decentralized green energy. Why can't we turn our rooftops into solar capture sites? Economic incentive to turn a good portion of the southern US into a collective solar/ wind farm. Centralizing our resources seems to lead to corporate greed, and opens us up to attack on our vital resources. Imho.
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Originally posted by Dan and Christy View PostTequila - They actually had a tax rebate for residential solar use here in NV that ended a couple of months ago. The state would give you X $ for every solar watt generated. The math just didn't calc out. I think we would have to be in our house for about 124 years before it panned out. I definitely think that is the beginning of the right path though.
IMHO, tax incentives for this green energy are extremely lacking, but tax incentives to big oil to keep it up are abundant. It's hard to fight that kind of inequality, a radical shift in mindset is required. Even if the average household could say take 1/2 it's energy from the grid, and 1/2 from alternative, that would be a major incentive, if there were incentives to cover a good portion of the upfront costs.
I'm just kind of free form thinking, but I do know a couple people who actually push power to the grid from their homes. So the energy companies pay them for that electricity, or offer them credits etc. I do know it took pretty substantial $$ for them both to get this going, and I would doubt they will ever recoupe their initial investments.
I am also kind of thinking that municipalities should put mini wind turbines on their existing power poles/street lights. Why create more vertical structures, when these things litteraly dot the landscape. Heck even a small solar panel could power some of these street lights. I've got similar versions of this idea in my yard. I just don't thing everything should be plugged into the grid, just because it is the simplest way..."I want to know God's thoughts, the rest are just details"
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Problem with any alternative power is every Eco-nut out there will find some reason to fight it. Dams damage this, wind power kills birds, solar panel fields reflect light into Hawks eyes....etc etc. We as a country have gotten to a point where we cater and make policy for the minority rather than the masses. At our house on Maui we had a solar panel just to run our hot water heater, worked great. So I do believe in small localized conservation efforts, but I'm actually against tax incentives for these programs, but understand why they are in place. I think wind and solar are still many years away from being a feasable solution. Nuclear power is probably where we need to be investing, with tidal, wind and solar supplementing nuclear power. I've always wondered why the Prius doesn't have solar panels on the roof to charge the battery? I think it's great when people take small steps to conserve, but I get real tired of people, rich people, who live lavish lifestyles and vacation all over the world lecturing me about conservation..........
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The selling point is: When the grid goes down and it does and will, you are still up.
When we ran out of gas here in atlanta for 2 weeks I had enough to get by without
sitting in lines.. I'm thinken the same with all power. Like make enough to heat my water
and enough to charge a small car. JIC (just in case) same name as my gun!
If nothing else it's my part in being green (after a day on the lake.)
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Originally posted by chadster2 View PostThe selling point is: When the grid goes down and it does and will, you are still up.
When we ran out of gas here in atlanta for 2 weeks I had enough to get by without
sitting in lines.. I'm thinken the same with all power. Like make enough to heat my water
and enough to charge a small car. JIC (just in case) same name as my gun!
If nothing else it's my part in being green (after a day on the lake.)
I'm also quite sure that bird kills from wind power is far less of an environental issue than strip coal mining....even after remediation."I want to know God's thoughts, the rest are just details"
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Originally posted by Tequilasun View PostI'm a little more greedy, I want off the grid. I'm willing to sacrifice some things to do so. But im not willing to shell out major money to get there=no net gain. I am a bit of an environentalist on some issues, but make no mistake my desire to go green is $$ motivated.
I'm also quite sure that bird kills from wind power is far less of an environental issue than strip coal mining....even after remediation.
I'm thinking "some", like solar hot water ($6000), is better than not.
If that works out well maybe some watts, enough to say light up the
woods behind the house. After we see how that works, step it up to the
next place....... . and a wood burning oven,
like making my own white lightnin'
some here some more there, soon enough the grid is less
important to me... YEA!Last edited by chadster2; 03-10-2009, 01:43 AM.
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