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[Timmy!]

FAST1911 - WELCOME TO AMERICA where we have the freedom and rights to believe in what we want! If you want all of these strict values, go to another country but for now I can believe in whatever I want, I can support homosexuals, I can believe in the right to pro choice and the freedom of religion (or lack thereof). I'm sorry that you feel that everyone needs to have the same belief's that you have.

[Timmy!]

Just to prove the religion point... Muslims for McCain:

[chpthril]

I've ordered 1000 of these T-shirts Let me know how many you guys want

[LovinPowell]

I'll take zero.

[jwanck11]

I'd take Palin over Biden. It's not really even about that. You just can't have a Democratic congress and President. If you have a democratic President and congress things gets Efed up. The Clinton admin is a prime example. This financial crissis and economy downfall was started with him. Gotta go with Repuplican to keep the checks and balances system working. Jimmy Carter is another example.

Like a rep pres and rep congress?

the economic issues today had nothing (or next to NOTHING) to do with Clinton and the congress at the time. Careful with causation statements

I will take Biden over Palin any day of the week and twice on Sundays. She has exactly zero experience in world affairs and she scares the crap outta me with that soccer mom stuff. I do not want a soccer mom in the office of the presidency of the United States of America. I sure hope McCain does not kick the bucket!!!

Timmy, I do agree... but have one slight perhaps difference in perspecitve: America is about to each their own (individual rights) and it is up to Americans to find and define what "our way" means (the rights as defined by the people.)

If I have learned anything, it is that out federation is still quite necessary.

[chpthril]

I do have to say that the housing mess we are in now was started by the Clinton Admin. He pushed for lenders, Fanny May, Freddy Mac, etc, to ease up the lending criteria that led to people buying homes that shouldn't, and many buying 2x the house they really could afford.

The Dems are really hitting the hypocrite sauce right now. One of their main platform is less Gov control, agree?, but they are blaming the Rep's for letting Wall Street run wild and get out of control

[jwanck11]

The rogue derivates and actual lending institutions ought to be the focus. Only when those entities (those left) address their greed/screw-ups will there be a long term fix for this particular economic mess. It is oh so easy to point fingers at a particular administration, but that is not where the finger pointing ought to be directed... fiscal matters are in the hands mostly of the private market.

[Fast1911]

The rogue derivates and actual lending institutions ought to be the focus. Only when those entities (those left) address their greed/screw-ups will there be a long term fix for this particular economic mess. It is oh so easy to point fingers at a particular administration, but that is not where the finger pointing ought to be directed... fiscal matters are in the hands mostly of the private market.

I agree with the fact that financial institutions should be held accountable for having an obscene amount of greed and poor business practice, however, the legislation that the Clinton administration put into place opened the door for them to be even greedier than they already were. And even if the Bush administration would have tried to reverse that(which they did not) they would have been marked as racists and being unfair to the poor people who are just trying to buy a house for $500K on a $35K salary.

[Fast1911]

AYERS: RADICAL LOON WHEN OBAMA WAS ONLY 47
October 22, 2008


The media are acting as if they completely and fully vetted Obama during the Democratic primaries and that's why they are entitled to send teams of researchers into Alaska to analyze Sarah Palin's every expense report.

In fact, the mainstream media did no vetting. They seem to have all agreed, "OK, none of us will get into this business with Jeremiah Wright, 'Tony' Rezko, Saul Alinsky, Bill Ayers and everyone's impression of an angry Michelle Obama on 'The Jerry Springer Show.'"

During one of the Democratic primary debates, Hillary Clinton was hissed for mentioning Syrian national Rezko, and during another, ABC moderator George Stephanopoulos nearly lost his career for asking Obama one question about William Ayers.

In the past week, TV anchors have taken to claiming that Obama "refuted" John McCain's statement that Obama launched his political career at the home of former Weather Underground leader Ayers.

No, Obama "denied" it; he didn't "refute" it. If "denying" something is the same as "refuting" it, then maybe the establishment media can quit harping on Palin's qualifications to be president, since she too "refuted" that by denying it.

Back before the media realized it needed to lie about Obama launching his political career at Ayers' house, the Los Angeles Times provided an eyewitness account from a liberal who attended the event.

"When I first met Barack Obama, he was giving a standard, innocuous little talk in the living room of those two legends-in-their-own-minds, Bill Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn. They were launching him -- introducing him to the Hyde Park community as the best thing since sliced bread."

The Times has now stripped this item from its Web page, but the great blogger Patterico has preserved it for posterity on his Web page.

Obama's glib remark that "Bill Ayers is a professor of education in Chicago; 40 years ago when I was 8 years old he engaged in despicable acts with a domestic group. I have roundly denounced those attacks" -- doesn't answer anything.

First of all, the fact that Ayers is a professor of education proves only one thing: He is dumber than any person without an education degree.

Ayers is such an imbecile, we ought to be amazed that he's teaching at a university -- even when you consider that it's an ed school -- except all former violent radicals end up teaching. Roughly 80 percent of former Weathermen are full college professors -- 99 percent if you don't include the ones killed in shoot-outs with the police or in prison -- i.e., not yet pardoned by a Democratic president.

Any other profession would have banned a person like Ayers. Universities not only accept former domestic terrorists, but also move them to the front of the line. In addition to Ayers, among those once on the FBI's most-wanted list who ended up in cushy college teaching positions are Bernardine Dohrn (Northwestern University), Mark Rudd (a junior college in New Mexico) and Angela Davis (History of Consciousness Department, University of California at Santa Cruz).

While others were hard at work on Ph.D.s, Susan Rosenberg was conspiring to kill cops and blow up buildings, and was assembling massive caches of explosives. This put her on the fast track for a teaching position at Hamilton College!

Despite having absolutely no qualifications to teach, having earned only a master's degree in "writing" through a correspondence course, Rosenberg was offered a position at Hamilton within a few years of President Clinton pardoning her in 2001, releasing her from a 58-year prison sentence for participating in the murder of cops and possessing more than 700 pounds of explosives.

But Obama thinks it's a selling point to say that Ayers is a college professor.

Hundreds of college professors have signed a letter vouching for Ayers, which would be like Lester Maddox producing a letter from George Wallace assuring us that Maddox is a respected member of the community. No, really, I've got the letter right here!

The media keep citing the fact that the money Obama and Ayers distributed to idiotic left-wing causes came -- as The New York Times put it -- "from Walter H. Annenberg, the billionaire publisher and philanthropist and President Richard M. Nixon's ambassador to the United Kingdom."

Great Republican though he was, Walter Annenberg died in 2002. The money came from the Annenberg Foundation, which, like all foundations, distributes money to projects that its founder would despise. John Kerry ran for president on the late John Heinz's money. That didn't mean Republican Heinz was endorsing Kerry.

As John O'Sullivan says, any foundation that is not explicitly right-wing will become a radical left-wing organization within a few years. It could be the Association of University Women, the American Association of Retired People, the American Rose Growers, the Foundation for the Study of Railroad Engineers or the Choral Society of Newport Beach.

Left-wing radicals swarm to free foundation money, where they can give gigantic grants to one another and they will never have to do a day's work. That's exactly what Obama and Ayers did with Annenberg's money.

None of the Annenberg money went to schoolchildren. It went to Ayers' left-wing crank friends to write moronic papers that we hope no one ever reads.

Instead of teaching students reading and writing, Ayers thinks they should be taught to rebel against America's "imperialist" social structure. In 2006, Ayers was in Venezuela praising communist dictator Hugo Chavez, saying, "We share the belief that education is the motor-force of revolution."

He has backed a line of schoolbooks such as one titled "Teaching Science for Social Justice."

Forget about Ayers' domestic terrorism when Obama "was 8 years old." Does he agree with Ayers' idiot ideas right now?

COPYRIGHT 2008 ANN COULTER
DISTRIBUTED BY UNIVERSAL PRESS SYNDICATE
4520 Main Street, Kansas City, MO 64111

[chpthril]

The rogue derivates and actual lending institutions ought to be the focus. Only when those entities (those left) address their greed/screw-ups will there be a long term fix for this particular economic mess. It is oh so easy to point fingers at a particular administration, but that is not where the finger pointing ought to be directed... fiscal matters are in the hands mostly of the private market.

I agree that blame needs to be placed with those involved especially the uninformed consumer that did not bother to take the time to understand what an ARM and Interest Only loan meant and what the responsibility was in holding one. Not saying Clinton caused this mess, but did set the ball in motion that allowed it to happen.

BUT,

Those tight lending practices were in place for a reason because someone thought that it would not be a good idea to help a family with a combined household income of $40k get into a $250K house. They greedy lenders should have had foresight to see what might happen, but under the Clinton Admin, these tight guidlines were eased up. I agree that fiscal matters are mostly in the hands of the private market, but when the Feds are backing these institutions, there is, and should be, some oversight.

[Fast1911]

I agree that blame needs to be placed with those involved especially the uninformed consumer that did not bother to take the time to understand what an ARM and Interest Only loan meant and what the responsibility was in holding one. Not saying Clinton caused this mess, but did set the ball in motion that allowed it to happen.

BUT,

Those tight lending practices were in place for a reason because someone thought that it would not be a good idea to help a family with a combined household income of $40k get into a $250K house. They greedy lenders should have had foresight to see what might happen, but under the Clinton Admin, these tight guidlines were eased up. I agree that fiscal matters are mostly in the hands of the private market, but when the Feds are backing these institutions, there is, and should be, some oversight.

Is there an echo in here?

[chpthril]

Is there an echo in here?

Really

[Fast1911]

Redistribution of wealth............

[Timmy!]

It's not just the Govt. that is to blame for this mess, the builders and lenders share a huge chunk of responsibility as well. My ex-wife used to sell new homes for a builder that also had their own mortgage company and they would always find a way to get someone into a house to get that huge profit, especially if someone had ANY down payment at all. When I was married to her she would come home a few times a week and just be in shock that the builder/lender approved someone who had only declared bankruptcy 4 years ago but had $5k in cash to put down on a $250k house even though they only made x amount per month and clearly could not afford to live there.

[skyski_tige]

It's not just the Govt. that is to blame for this mess, the builders and lenders share a huge chunk of responsibility as well. My ex-wife used to sell new homes for a builder that also had their own mortgage company and they would always find a way to get someone into a house to get that huge profit, especially if someone had ANY down payment at all. When I was married to her she would come home a few times a week and just be in shock that the builder/lender approved someone who had only declared bankruptcy 4 years ago but had $5k in cash to put down on a $250k house even though they only made x amount per month and clearly could not afford to live there.

Lets not blame the borrowers. They did nothing wrong...