Tv Resolutions: 720p, 1080i, 1080p

[zad0030]

Dude, no one's disputing that. There is a difference and it's noticeable on any TV over 50". Anything smaller, you're wasting your money to get 1080p.

I agree

What ya mean

What he is saying is that the lower resolution on the bigger screen has to stretch to fill the screen. This causes a loss of quality

[chpthril]

If you ain't got no HD channels, then you ain't seein' anything in HD.

I'm not entirely stupid, but this I know. I never said anything about seeing anything in HD, I was saying that the picture was absolutely great, even with an older, non-HD, analog signal sat box, that I have not upgraded yet because the sat company wont send my the dish to install my self, and I wont let them install it. So, we a Mexican Standoff right now.

[zad0030]

I'm not entirely stupid, but this I know. I never said anything about seeing anything in HD, I was saying that the picture was absolutely great, even with an older, non-HD, analog signal sat box, that I have not upgraded yet because the sat company wont send my the dish to install my self, and I wont let them install it. So, we a Mexican Standoff right now.

Maybe you should get cable?????????

[chpthril]

I agree


What he is saying is that the lower resolution on the bigger screen has to stretch to fill the screen. This causes a loss of quality

That's where I got lost with the "Chpthrl, not sure what you're expecting" cause I wasn't knocking the picture, but find it outstanding with the low-res analog signal. In fact, it has surpassed my expectations.

[chpthril]

Maybe you should get cable?????????

They dont offer the KY jelly channel

[zad0030]

That's where I got lost with the "Chpthrl, not sure what you're expecting" cause I wasn't knocking the picture, but find it outstanding with the low-res analog signal. In fact, it has surpassed my expectations.

If it aint broke dont fix it

They dont offer the KY jelly channel

Ah i see

[ragboy]

The absolute best way is to do a split screen between the two.


The only idea Im trying to push is that if your tv has the capability of 1080i that instead of 1080i you should use 720p. But if you have the capability of 1080p I dont see any reason why you shouldnt use 1080p.

I agree, but alot of people don't understand the difference between "being able to do" 1080P and native resolution. If the native resolution is not 1920x1080, then you may be able to display the signal of 1080p, but you are NOT seeing 1080p.

Plain and simple, The difference between 1080p and 720p is 360 lines

That is incorrect, the difference is 1.1 million pixels.

SD=640x480=307k pixels

480p=853x480=409k pixels

720p=1280x720=921k pixels

1080P=1920x1080=2.1 million pixels

Lines of resolution was a standard used with analog signal, but actually is still a good standard for quality of a picture. It had nothing to do with the horizontal resolution of pixels. Beta-SP, D1, and even VHS all used the same NTSC standard, which comes out to 640x480, but Beta-SP provided 350 lines of resolution, while VHS only about 100 or so.

There is also a whole other issue of framerate. There are actually 3 different 1080p's that I know of. 1080P24 1080P30 and 1080P60.

[dogbert]

Someone made the statement that 720p looked better than 1080i and that you're in fact better off with 720p than 1080i.

[chpthril]

Someone made the statement that 720p looked better than 1080i and that you're in fact better off with 720p than 1080i.

That COULD be a true statement in some instances. With fast moving shows like sports and action movies, a "P" with re-draw faster then an "I". Also, in a small room, you may not be able to get back far enough from a big 1080I, and a smaller 720P would actually look better.

[dogbert]

That COULD be a true statement in some instances. With fast moving shows like sports and action movies, a "P" with re-draw faster then an "I". Also, in a small room, you may not be able to get back far enough from a big 1080I, and a smaller 720P would actually look better.

I agree for smaller TVs (say anything 42" and under). Good point on the refresh speed. That's what why I chose DLP over plasma and LCD. I don't think it has as much to do with the "i" vs. "p", but rather the type of technology. I think mine eliminates the issue even though the feed is only 1080i. I also found that you don't get so much of that "pixilation" effect when watching fast moving sports. Lines are much more crisp.

One final note, Mitsubishi's DLP was far more brilliant than any other.

[chpthril]

I agree for smaller TVs (say anything 42" and under). Good point on the refresh speed. That's what why I chose DLP over plasma and LCD. I don't think it has as much to do with the "i" vs. "p", but rather the type of technology. I think mine eliminates the issue even though the feed is only 1080i. I also found that you don't get so much of that "pixilation" effect when watching fast moving sports. Lines are much more crisp.

One final note, Mitsubishi's DLP was far more brilliant than any other.

If remember reading right, the "P" re-draws the hole pic and the "i" re-draws every other line, alternating.

On the bigger sets, I'd say go with 1080p 99% of the time. We actually saw 50ish and up 1080p's for what we paid for our 720p flat. I just didn't have the room in the den for that size tv

[zad0030]

If remember reading right, the "P" re-draws the hole pic and the "i" re-draws every other line, alternating.

Right,
Here is what P looks Like,


And this is I,

[zad0030]

My cable box is set to 720p. But any station that comes in thats not HD, like just the basic cable channels, Is displayed skinier, with bars on the side. Natuarally my dad doesnt like that, So i went into the setting and reset the 4:3 overdrive. It had 4 settings, Off, 480i, 480p, and stretch. It is set of 480p and it fits them to the screen and some of them look like utter CRAP!. It looks just like a picture blown up on the computer would. Because basically thats kinda whats hapening.

[zad0030]

I got a Toshiba 51" Rear projection and the right side of the picture gets cut off.
Do you think my projectors should be realigned?

[Domsz06]

i dont' care what anyone says or what anyone thinks, EVERYONE will like something different based on THEIR setup.

I have a 50" visio 1080i in my bedroom hanging on my wall. It works and looks great. I don't have cable nor anything HD. Xbox plays great on it.

I'm also 10-12 feet away from the screen.

In my living room a 62 or 65" is going in, I'll be 10 feet away, and again I think it looks great. Now when I buy that one will I buy p or i or what not, man it just depends. I have seen 720's look better then 1080's. It all depends on the feed and what your watching.