ballast

[spenchey2]

when my 22 gets here and summer comes, i'm be useing just taps. many people who i've talked to have said the only reason you need ballast is if your going to be pulling pros.

[Ruune]

Originally posted by spenchey2
when my 22 gets here and summer comes, i'm be useing just taps. many people who i've talked to have said the only reason you need ballast is if your going to be pulling pros.

LOL thats what I originally thought. The wake is good w/o ballast, but phenominal with. Try it both ways.

[Big Fire]

Hull warranty

This question has kind of been answered but I just was looking for some clarification. I'm looking to install my own ballast system in my boat. Despite all of the great reviews I have hear about rival, I'm planning on using 3 simers into two hard tanks in the back, and a Fly High bow sack in the front.

My question is in regards to drilling the hole for the pick-up. I know the factory system drills through above the taps plate, but that doesn't let you pick-up/drain on the move. I am looking to drill opposite the fresh water pick-up. So what does that do to the warranty? I tried reading through all of the warranty info and have an idea but would love some clarification. I have a '02 21V Limited.

Thanks for the help.

[Paublo]

If you have any real concerns give Andrew a call at Tige, but he stated previously-

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No that does not void the warranty. If someone drills through the center walkthrough then that is a different story. There are 2 different conversations going on here.

1 asked about drilling into the walkway and with the new stringer system we have there is a section that goes underneath the walkway and if you drill a hole out in the walkway then this could void the warranty.

Installing a rival ballast system where you are drilling a small hole for the water to exit is completely different and will not void the warranty

Hope this answers your questions. If there are any further please let me know.

Andrew
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The hole for ballast water pick-up is the same as the pick-up for engine cooling and similar to the hole for perfect pass. Pick the right spot and no worries.

[dogbert]

Speaking of Rival, I tried contacting them to get more specifics about whether or not their system would fit in my '99 21v, but haven't received a response from them. Does anyone out there have one and, if so, do you have some pictures or dimensions?

[Paublo]

My unofficial answer would be yes, it will fit. I have heard of a few makes/model of direct drives that may have a tough time fitting the valve in, but you should be ok. Do a search, there are a few pictures on here.

Wait until Monday and then give the guys at Rival (Tige Performance Boats- Mesa, AZ) a call. They are all involved in a boat show at Lake Pleasant from Thurs thru Sun.

[lee]

I believe it would fit, we just finished the install in a 2001 21v on Wednesday.

[dougofkc]

Hole in the walkway

I've got a 2003 22V and just chopped in a new 6" deck plate. The space opened up room to plumb in my built in tanks, and add a 500 pounder in the floor. The weight is exactly where I needed it. I was not aware of this forum before I chopped the hole. Sucks to hear that the warranty may be void now but I think I would have made the chop anyway. Thats some great space, not sure why there is not more gas tank under there, or a deck plate from the factory. Unless you want bags all over the floor this is the only way to keep it clean and get the 60/40 weight distribution you need for a big wake.

[talltigeguy]

Doug,

DO you have a pic of where you made the hole?

[dougofkc]

pic of hole cut in bow

Here is a pic. Lots of other stuff going on with my ballast overhaul this winter... pardon the mess please!

[21V_Swe]

Hi!

I've got a 2001 21v which I'm installing my custom ballast system with three ballast-puppys and 3 flighhigh sacs. I've already bought a flyhigh sac that will fit perfectly in front of the gastank and I'm planning on cutting a hole in the walkway for inspection. My consideration after reading this post is: Is there any issues with this on a 2001 or only 2004->?

[talltigeguy]

Doug,

I don't see a picture. Is that just my computer? Thanks for trying, I really would like to see it.

SWE,

Just be careful of where the stringers are under the floor, you may not be able to get through where you want.

[dogbert]

Originally posted by 21V_Swe
Hi!

I've got a 2001 21v which I'm installing my custom ballast system with three ballast-puppys and 3 flighhigh sacs. I've already bought a flyhigh sac that will fit perfectly in front of the gastank and I'm planning on cutting a hole in the walkway for inspection. My consideration after reading this post is: Is there any issues with this on a 2001 or only 2004->?

You might want to check with Andrew on this, but I don't think there's any room there and from what Andrew told me, you'd damage the stingers and void your hull warranty. I'd PM him.

I have the same boat as you and I had the same question.

BTW, you can really only get about 1500 lbs max in that boat. I've currently got a manual system, but I've got 2 350s on either side of the engine and about 650-700 up front (in a Flying High wraparound bowsack underneath the front seats) and a 150 moveable Launchpad that we move around depending on occuppancy and weighting needs. The nice thing about the 150 is that you can move it around. Alternatively, you could look into some lead.

Also, I've got a longer ski locker sack that I fill when we're surfing and it goes in that storage area below the passenger side (right behind the cooler).

Hope this helps.

-t

[21V_Swe]

Thanx alot Dogbert..

But I've already removed the gastank and made sure that the sac will fit there (holds 680lbs, can fill to 600), would just be nice to be able to check on it if I get any problems, don't wanna remove the tank every time .. BTW, Why is it not possible to load more than 1500??? When this installation is done I've got 1400 and got plenty of space left.. No storage used except for the Vdrive lockers.

[Sammamish22V]

Just to confirm on this discussion, you can only put in a sac under the floor up to a 2003 model. It voids the warranty, but you can do it. In 2004, they changed the stringers and that took away the room. It is a shame because that 500 pound sac right under the center of the boat is perfect.