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    #16
    Two things come to mind. One is what i feel like calling the platform is my personal prerogative based on what I see right now as the platform that came with the boat, It feels like sandpaper on your feet and hands but that is enough. What I call it is my business. It does not match the quality of the boats reputation so in my opinion it is a POS.

    Second let us assume that it does turn out to not be teak. Iroko wood is not teak of any sort by definitions I have seen. I hope Tige has the business ethics to deal with that issue and not play the game subject to change without notice if in fact it is not teak. According to this site the production of Iroko wood went thru 2006 which was the year mine was built so my assumption may be valid and I need to follow thru on finding out for sure.

    Over all I am happy with the boats performance.

    I am not ecstatic about the vinyls fit and finish in a few areas but that is what warranty work is for. I could go on but I won't. It seems to me that if you mention anything negative about a Tige boat it is Taboo.

    Carter13 thanks for the info.
    Last edited by Guest; 06-30-2008, 09:46 AM.

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      #17
      Originally posted by 1Lab_trainer View Post
      I am not ecstatic about the vinyls fit and finish in a few areas but that is what warranty work is for. I could go on but I won't. It seems to me that if you mention anything negative about a Tige boat it is Taboo.
      If there's something wrong with the boat, by all means bring it up and we'll try to help. I'm all for making the dealer/manufacturer live up to their commitments.

      My point was you don't know what you have and you're already calling it a POS. As Jason points out, it might actually work out just fine. Teak has its issues, too. I was just suggesting that even if you had teak, it might not solve the grain issues you mentioned based on my personal experience with my teak platform.
      Cursed by a fortune cookie: "Your principles mean more to you than any money or success."

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        #18
        I won't debate what I call Iroko wood. What I am aggravated about is that African teak(Iroko wood) is a substitute for teak but has no relation to the teak family as noted in the on-line Wikepedia and Encyclopedia Britannica.

        Other information states that it has been used as a substitute for teak. Now why did (if they did) Tige buy its platforms with a non teak wood as documented in these forums. Boats built thru the end of 2006 used the Irocko wood. I think Tige was duped because I doubt they don't have a forestry expert on staff.

        All I want is what I paid for which is teak or the opportunity to pay the teak to fiberglass difference to get away from the teak issue with an upgrade. I am not looking for a freebie as someone stated,

        If you saw or stood and sat on this platform I doubt you would call it teak. It looks like teak to a degree but the grain is much coarser and a bit more random. If it is real teak, it still is what I called it because of the finish. I had originally thought I would do a Dogbert and re-finish until someone dropped a bug in my ear last week. If it is ruled by Tige to be teak I will hope re-finishing helps.

        Right now I have gone by the process and reported to my dealer and a Tige rep to determine based on my build date if the platform is Iroko (African Teak) or real teak and go from there.

        As to my warranty items my dealer will get the rest of the list with pictures this week and I won't post what they are. Learn from your mistakes is a good dictum.
        Last edited by Guest; 06-30-2008, 02:30 PM.

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          #19
          BTW, when I got my boat, the teak platform looked like crap. I went home, stewed on it for about 30 minutes and called the owner of the Ski Dock. He told me there's no way I should put up with that. He told me he needed 3 hours to detail the boat and it would look great when I picked it up. He was right. We had a couple of other minor issues, but they were all taken care of by the dealer.

          IMHO, your dealer is the one you should be holding accountable. He's the one who sold it as teak. They make enough on these boats where some of these items are within their power to fix. I will tell you that it does pay to establish a good working relationship with your dealer. That way, when stuff does go wrong (and it will), they'll treat you favorably because they generally like you (if they're reasonable). I'm suggesting what I'm about to say is what you're doing, but the adversarial approach doesn't really work and should only be a measure of last resort. Otherwise you risk a tarnished relationship and no one is happy.

          I would try the refinish to see if that remedies the situation, if it were me. It's a little bit of work to save me a lot of time. If it still looks terrible, then work something out with the dealer. Maybe you tried this already, I really don't know.
          Cursed by a fortune cookie: "Your principles mean more to you than any money or success."

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            #20
            Lab

            Just hold off for a wile and see that happens to the swimstep. You have a 1 year for it to go bad. Once it does tige will replace it with a new one or offer to upgrade you the a glass swimstep it was a $240 difference in 2005-6 as for the sand paper feeling you need to get out a sander and sand the heck out of it, you would have to do the same thing with real teak, take the deck off and oil underneath as well....

            We are on our second deck now and it's warping and cracking again. At the time tige didn't have anyone to make a real teak deck and we did not want the glass one.

            Ill take some pix tonight and post the up so you know what to look for.
            Put your hand on a hot stove for a minute, and it seems like an hour. Sit with a pretty girl for an hour, and it seems like a minute. THAT'S relativity. Albert Einstein

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              #21
              G-Money and Dogbert;

              I appreciate your advice. I will tell you I have gotten hot under the collar on the forum but not in correspondence to my dealer. As a matter of fact I volunteered last week to offer them a testimonial. With them being in Southern Wisconsin and Me being 35 miles west of the city I can only interact with them via email or some phone calls to service and my salesman.

              If the platform is teak then I will or have the dealer re-finish at my 20 hour check and warranty work.

              If the platform is not teak I clearly do not want it as a substitute. I would pay $270 to upgrade to glass.

              If that doesn't work for Tige or my dealer then a real Teak deck will need to be the recourse.

              Thanks for the recommendations.

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                #22
                Originally posted by G-MONEY View Post
                Lab

                Just hold off for a wile and see that happens to the swimstep. You have a 1 year for it to go bad. Once it does tige will replace it with a new one or offer to upgrade you the a glass swimstep it was a $240 difference in 2005-6 as for the sand paper feeling you need to get out a sander and sand the heck out of it, you would have to do the same thing with real teak, take the deck off and oil underneath as well....

                We are on our second deck now and it's warping and cracking again. At the time tige didn't have anyone to make a real teak deck and we did not want the glass one.

                Ill take some pix tonight and post the up so you know what to look for.
                If I am not mistaken yours was made of Iroko wood. Can Tige build you a Teak one now?

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                  #23
                  xpjim
                  he has iroko. the company making the platform for tige went out of business about the time we were having ours replaced which was in the later part of 2006. it will be interesting to see if iroko platforms will get replaced with real teak.

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                    #24
                    Originally posted by gman View Post
                    xpjim
                    he has iroko. the company making the platform for tige went out of business about the time we were having ours replaced which was in the later part of 2006. it will be interesting to see if iroko platforms will get replaced with real teak.
                    Gman
                    When did you have yours replaced? How did you find out it was Iroko and not teak? What did you replace with?

                    Thanks for info.

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                      #25
                      Replaced it in 2006 around august time frame just under the warrnaty time frame of 1 year. Found out from dealer and also from Lee that it is not teak. I think the name of the co that made the platform was skiview (or something like that) but i may be wrong. Deck was replaced by the same stuff (iroko) and like I said the replacement platform is about 7% smaller. Not happy about that either. There was a thread on this web site and i'm looking for it. I was told that if I wanted real teak that it would be more expensive than the fiberglass platform.
                      Last edited by gman; 07-01-2008, 06:36 PM.

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                        #26
                        gman,
                        Thanks for the info. It may help in my quest to gain satisfaction or an ulcer

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                          #27
                          Originally posted by 1Lab_trainer View Post
                          gman,
                          Thanks for the info. It may help in my quest to gain satisfaction or an ulcer
                          As a good buddy of mine from Minnesota told me, just drink through it!
                          Cursed by a fortune cookie: "Your principles mean more to you than any money or success."

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                            #28
                            Here is one of the various non teak threads
                            http://www.tigeowners.com/forum/show...highlight=teak

                            Ironic it was started by Wake Havasu

                            1Lab_trainer my point I was trying to make(did not do a good job of it) was find out what your deck was made of before venting. What i missed was half of this discussin started in the Malibu Recall thread.

                            I also wished you the best of luck if the deck was Iroko as I continue to do so. I am glad when I purchasd my boat I had the dealer replace the wood platform of unknown origin with a fiberglass platform. Kind of curious when Ski View became the supplier. I remember them on ebay in 03 or 04 as a friend of mine bought a replacement teak deck for his 91 Ski Centurion from them

                            gman - I think we need to head to the drink of choice thread again
                            Let it be!!!

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                              #29
                              Firemanager82b1
                              You had problems with your platform. What was the resolution?

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                                #30
                                xpjim1,
                                Vodka is still my drink of choice (vodka gimlet). You think we will ever resolve this and get our real teak?

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