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    Anyone know what a short tower is ?

    According to a source at Tige my 07 20V does not have a E-Series tower. It has what the source has refered to as a short tower!
    Has anyone heard of this? Supposedly this short tower is the tower of choice for the last 2 years by Tige for the 20V and the 20I . Both of these boats use the same hull which has a 96 inch beam. All the other models can have either a E-Series Tower or a Z- Series tower with exception to the Z1 which can have an E-Series or Sampson Tower.
    Anyone have any ideas or worth?

    #2
    Me thinks the source is wrong or he is pulling my leg and the short tower issue is

    No Need to Post a reply. I think I already have my answer

    It seem that 30+ readers have no idea as to what in the hell I am talking about I would say someone may be pulling the wool over my eyes
    Last edited by Guest; 03-27-2008, 01:01 AM.

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      #3
      Short Tower Does Exist !! Tige Makes 3 Towers !!!

      Originally posted by 1Lab_trainer View Post
      Me thinks the source is wrong or he is pulling my leg and the short tower issue is.................
      After I received a followup message that again stated that the 20V and 20I have " Short Towers", I decided to look a little further.

      Looking at 07 and 08 Tige Literature I have concluded that the "Z" towers Wakeboard Billet mounts on the boats deck behind the windshield and not on the tower.

      In pictures of the 22VE and a couple of others you can see that one of the tower supports follows the windshield frame and its Wakeboard Billet mounts to the tower support going over the windshield. This one must be the "E" tower.

      If you look at the towers on the 20V and the 20I you can see that the tower looks like an "E" tower with the Wakeboard Billet mounted to the tower support that goes over the windshield so of course I assumed that it was an "E" tower also.

      Then I looked at the size of the Wakeboard Billets on the 20V and the 20I and saw that they are significantly smaller than the one I saw on the 22VE and the 21I in the literature.

      Based on this it seems that in 07 and 08 boats that Tige makes 3 towers and not just the "E" and "Z" towers as noted in the option section of the literature.

      Again the visual difference in the pictures is the size of the Billets between an "E" series tower and what my contact has refered to as a "Short Tower".

      So I was wrong in my previous assumptions. This "Short Tower" has less space between the Bimini and where you would mount your speakers and is probably why my dealer could not mount the Pro-80s I bought on my tower because in fact it isn't an "E" tower but a derivative.

      You just have to love truth in advertising! The darn literature does not say there is a third tower option. The question I have is which tower is on other 07 -08 20Vs. Do any of them have a "True" "E" tower?
      Last edited by Guest; 03-29-2008, 03:54 AM.

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        #4
        And I thought I was excited to get my boat.

        Glad that you are doing some research above and beyond.

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          #5
          Lunchbox's Red 20V has the "Short Tower" and Pro 80's but his bimini is mounted differently than mine.

          Finally found the f___ing difference.

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            #6
            Originally posted by da.bell View Post
            And I thought I was excited to get my boat.

            Glad that you are doing some research above and beyond.
            I would be excited to take delivery sometime in April after the thaw.

            I had a need to know why Pro-80's fit on LBX's 20V and not mine. We both have the exact same non-"E" Series tower. So does Bibbs and Oktige.

            I thought I was being 'd.

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              #7
              I have read that and do find it interesting that they made different towers. Probably why no one answered your questions because no one knew why. I am surprised that no one knew it but it's good that you took the time to research.

              Does that mean that your tower will fit into your garage without modifications to trailer and garage door?

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                #8
                Originally posted by 1Lab_trainer View Post
                Lunchbox's Red 20V has the "Short Tower" and Pro 80's but his bimini is mounted differently than mine.

                Finally found the f___ing difference.
                Yes - You are correct - I have the bimini that uses the thumbscrews. There is also one that uses clips if I remember correctly... That may be what you have Lab...
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by da.bell View Post
                  I have read that and do find it interesting that they made different towers. Probably why no one answered your questions because no one knew why. I am surprised that no one knew it but it's good that you took the time to research.

                  Does that mean that your tower will fit into your garage without modifications to trailer and garage door?
                  Yes and No. I still had to mod the trailer and make it 3 inches shorter which got it to 83.5 inches from 86.5. Door is 82.5 so I will use a 10+ inch drop down when pushing into garage and have about two inches of clearance. A lot cheaper to mod the trailer than the tower or the garage. Cost me a 1/2 a k but will be worth it since I tow all the time. But that is a hell of a lot cheaper than modifying my garage on a 7 year old house.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Lunchbox View Post
                    Yes - You are correct - I have the bimini that uses the thumbscrews. There is also one that uses clips if I remember correctly... That may be what you have Lab...
                    I can't tell if mine uses thumb screws or what but it looks to me like mine is closer to the cross bars. Wetsounds is treating me well and allowing me to swap black B-Stock Pro-80's for new white Pro-60's. It will take 2-3 weeks for them to get here because of ground shipping. Then time to find an installer or deal with it myself. Because of shortness for time, I will probably have an installer do it. Just have to find one :
                    Last edited by Guest; 03-29-2008, 04:12 AM.

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                      #11
                      We had this same discussion awhile back and it turned ugly

                      Here it is for what it's worth: Tige does, in fact, offer only 2 tower options - the "Z" and the "E" STYLE tower. These 2 style towers are jigged/sized to fit multiple boats, but, are still either a "Z" or an "E".

                      The "Z" is only offered on the 22' and 24' V-drive boats. Although these 2 length boats have the same beam, the towers are jigged differently for the 22' and 24' boats, but it is still a "Z" series tower.

                      The "E" series tower is an option on all of the boats, but due to length and beam differences, the same "E" series style tower has to be sized differently to fit them all.

                      Here is what may have been lost in translation on the "short" tower on a 20V. It sounded like Tige offered a tall and short tower, which is not really the case. Because of the narrow beam (96" V's 100" & 102") on the 20' boats, the tower needs to be shorter, then the same "E" series tower on the other boats. If not, the tower would look, as my Rep explained it, like a basketball goal.

                      I would be curious as to what the height diff is between the "E" series tower on a 20v and my "E"series tower on my 22Ve. I will measure here in a little while. Would one of you mind measuring your tower? I know Lab1 cant.

                      *EDIT* Tower height from floor to bottom of tower on my 06 22Ve w/"E" series Tige tower = 87"
                      Last edited by chpthril; 03-29-2008, 04:14 PM.
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                        #12
                        All 20v have the same tower if it came from tige. thats the E series. there is no short or tall they are all the same. ther is no false advertising. is your bimini a tige factory one? who installed it? i have had them come already installed and i have also had them come in where i had to install them at the dealership.

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by kko View Post
                          All 20v have the same tower if it came from tige. thats the E series. there is no short or tall they are all the same. ther is no false advertising. is your bimini a tige factory one? who installed it? i have had them come already installed and i have also had them come in where i had to install them at the dealership.
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by chpthril View Post
                            We had this same discussion awhile back and it turned ugly
                            It wasn't me
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by chpthril View Post
                              We had this same discussion awhile back and it turned ugly

                              Here it is for what it's worth: Tige does, in fact, offer only 2 tower options - the "Z" and the "E" STYLE tower. These 2 style towers are jigged/sized to fit multiple boats, but, are still either a "Z" or an "E".

                              The "Z" is only offered on the 22' and 24' V-drive boats. Although these 2 length boats have the same beam, the towers are jigged differently for the 22' and 24' boats, but it is still a "Z" series tower.
                              "
                              The question I will kick back is why are the billets different on the tower found on the 20V or 20I vs the "E" towers on a 22VE or 21I.

                              The billets are significantly smaller,

                              As to my bimini it is factory installed.

                              Have you looked at the diference with the billet styles between what is being refered to as the Short Tower not nessarily because of it's height but because of its billets. It surely is a deviation from the "E" tower.

                              So if the depth and width of the tower doesn't change the nomenclature what about the diffence of the towers billets which constitutes a construction difference and assembly difference. It says to me Tige makes three towers and that is Tige's NSM has said to me,

                              I don't remembor a big stink on this subject, I must be getting old. WOops I am old.
                              Last edited by Guest; 03-29-2008, 05:48 PM.

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