24ve vs. 22ve wakes?

[Jetrey]

How much different are the two wakes? stock no ballast. And would adding 350 # of ballast to a 22ve to bring it up to the stock 24 weight make it comparable?

[chpthril]

How much different are the two wakes? stock no ballast. And would adding 350 # of ballast to a 22ve to bring it up to the stock 24 weight make it comparable?

Probably better! It seems, from what owners of both these boats are saying, is that because of the additional 2 ft of the 24Ve, which means extra buoyancy, it takes more weight in the 24Ve to achieve a similar wake as the 22Ve

I recently added 2 280#'ers to the rear lockers (none in front yet) and was impressed with the increase in wake size.

[da.bell]

I would say the wake would be better with the 24Ve compared to the 22Ve with no ballasts.

Puting weight into the 22Ve to match the weight of the 24Ve, I would say that the 22Ve's wake would be better because you are pushing the boat down into the water and moving more water around the boat.

However IMO, if you max out the ballasts on both boats, the 24Ve would have the better wake just because the amount of water displacement is greater and will cause a bigger wake.

[chpthril]

I would say the wake would be better with the 24Ve compared to the 22Ve with no ballasts.

Putting weight into the 22Ve to match the weight of the 24Ve, I would say that the 22Ve's wake would be better because you are pushing the boat down into the water and moving more water around the boat.

However IMO, if you max out the ballasts on both boats, the 24Ve would have the better wake just because the amount of water displacement is greater and will cause a bigger wake.

The additional buoyancy of the 2ft is greater than the weight difference of the 2 boats. Both boats come stock with 900# ballast. If you filled both up, the lighter 22Ve will sit lower in the water than the heavier 24Ve because the weight diff stayed the same and the 2 extra feet allow the 24 to float better. It would take (just guessing on this number) maybe 1200 to 1500# to over come the buoyancy difference and sink the 24Ve to the same depth as the 22Ve with the 900#.

Have not proved it myself, just based on theory of displacement and what other owners have noted. I'm sure that some math wiz on here knows how to "prove" this on paper.

[da.bell]

chpthril, the 24Ve starts off heavier from the get go and IMO, would think that this additional weight would make both boats have the same wake with no ballasts. However, you would be correct if both boats were to put 900 lbs, the 22 would sit lower in the water just because the 22 does not displace more water than the 24 from the get go.

But, the 24Ve can hold more weight to create a displacement which in turn causes a bigger wake.

Did I just confuse myself?????? I should just stick with programming web sites but at least we are not going to argue which brand of boat has the better wake

[chpthril]

It would be neat to do a head to head test of these 2 boats: Start w/no ballast, same fuel, same passengers and compare. Then start adding weight and see how the 2 wakes differ.

I know both boats will produce a similar, great wake, but I bet the 24Ve just needs a little more weight to do it

[da.bell]

It would be neat to do a head to head test of these 2 boats: Start w/no ballast, same fuel, same passengers and compare. Then start adding weight and see how the 2 wakes differ.

I know both boats will produce a similar, great wake, but I bet the 24Ve just needs a little more weight to do it

Agreed. That would be interesting to see and I am sure someone on here might be able to comment on it. Since there should be some Tige Dealerships that could chime in..... (Tige M.D. or Lee comments......)

[Tequilasun]

How much different are the two wakes? stock no ballast. And would adding 350 # of ballast to a 22ve to bring it up to the stock 24 weight make it comparable?

They are comparable as it is. It's a ratio game though, because the 24 is longer, and displaces more, it takes less than 350 lbs to get the 22 to the same as the 24.

I've drove and rode behind both the 22v and 24v with out ballast, and honestly I couldn't tell a whole lot of difference. We did tests with both boats with the same 3 people in the, and again with the same 10 people in them. Most people said the 22 was a little more rampy than the 24, but I didn't see it.

IMHO, the 22 is best with a 60/40 stern to bow weighting scheme, but the 24s are better with a little more weight in the bow. Say 70/30 or so.

I'm assuming the Ve's are similar.

[da.bell]

Nicely said Tequila.

Most people said the 22 was a little more rampy than the 24, but I didn't see it.

I would agree with this being more rampy. There is less surface area to displace water on the 22Ve compared to the 24Ve. Hence, causing the 22Ve to sink into the water more than the 24Ve would with the same people. It's all about proportions and ratios....

[wakeboarder247]

They are comparable as it is. It's a ratio game though, because the 24 is longer, and displaces more, it takes less than 350 lbs to get the 22 to the same as the 24.

I've drove and rode behind both the 22v and 24v with out ballast, and honestly I couldn't tell a whole lot of difference. We did tests with both boats with the same 3 people in the, and again with the same 10 people in them. Most people said the 22 was a little more rampy than the 24, but I didn't see it.

IMHO, the 22 is best with a 60/40 stern to bow weighting scheme, but the 24s are better with a little more weight in the bow. Say 70/30 or so.

I'm assuming the Ve's are similar.

Wait.. you said in your opinion, the 22 is best w/ a 60/40 stern to bow weighting scheme, meaning 60% stern 40% bow. Then you said the 24s are better with a little more weight in the bow, 70/30. Isn't that 70 stern and 30 bow, which results in less bow weight not more? Are your numbers flipped?

[Tequilasun]

Wait.. you said in your opinion, the 22 is best w/ a 60/40 stern to bow weighting scheme, meaning 60% stern 40% bow. Then you said the 24s are better with a little more weight in the bow, 70/30. Isn't that 70 stern and 30 bow, which results in less bow weight not more? Are your numbers flipped?

yep, flipped them around. After talking with a buddy, we figured out on his 24v we had it with ~ 55/45, stern to bow, so a bit more than my 22v.