2014 Tige ASR

[Timmy!]

Hmmm I see its listed over here.. Where are the pics of the surf wave ?



http://www.flickr.com/photos/wake9/10132951335/

I was waiting for someone to bring that up. He's obviously taunting us!

[Ewok]

Ragboy,

You said you've posted a pic of the new boat or test mule in the background before, do you still have that pic? Can you post it again in here?

[chpthril]

Real surf boats do it with a gangsta lean

Or

I dont always Surf behind my Tige, but when I do, I do it listed

[barry1me]

Its obvious that Tige used the G23 as the benchmark boat. With that said, I DONT CARE. Good for tige, I hope they can make it better then Nautique. I love the competition and the competitive spirit that Tige has, its very good for the industry. From what I can tell about Tige is they are not going to roll over easy and they are going after market share. If they can keep dialing in there R &D and improve the quality they could easily be at the top. Where as when I look at Mastercraft they havent done anything for the wakesurfing industry, yet they want to claim they are the best built boat out there. I have been on a 14 X10, X30, and X25, 13 Xstar, X25, X2, and X30 this year....they are nice boats but they miss some of the detail that Tige and CC can do.

Good work Tige....before an ASR gets in a customers hands make damn sure every quality check was checked twice and have it dialed in....if you do this it will be a great new product for Tige.

[McSpoon]

I know that you have already been called out on this once, but that is the dumbest reason to not own a boat brand that I have ever heard.



I have seen lots of ignorant Malibu owners, but I have the brains to not equate that with the boat manufacturer, or the boat itself. I also have seen idiots driving a Tige, but that doesn't mean I won't own a Tige.

Someone can correct me if I am wrong, but Tige was ahead of the curve as far as the deeper freeboard inboard boat. The Z3 seems to be the first boat to start getting deeper to accomodate the extra ballast for surfing. The G23 then kicked it up a notch further, and now we have the ASR, or Apex or whatever it is going to be called (I think they need some name recognition here). I think had Tige released this boat 2 years ago, it would not have been accepted very well. It would have seemed a radical departure from what was 'normal' at the time.

You judge me in one breath, and in the next call me ignorant and stupid!

HYPOCRITE! But I forgive you.

Did you even read the comment I quoted when I said that? I don't see anyone trying to stir the pot with that guy?

Is is just because I'm new here? I have to earn my place or something? I'm not part of the Tige clique? That is exactly the kind of attitude I can't tolerate.

For the record, there are plenty of Tige guys on WW defending Tige, they use the same names on there......see for yourself and read the ASR thread.......but what do I know? I"m sure that what I say falls on deaf ears anyway.

By the way: Did you ever consider that the attitudes people have towards the boats they own or don't own is perpetuated by the manufacturers? Read through some of the literature on the home pages of each manufacturer. Even Tige slams the use of drag devices used by other companies to create surf waves when Tige says how their hulls are better designed and don't need them.




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[Ewok]

You judge me in one breath, and in the next call me ignorant and stupid!

HYPOCRITE! But I forgive you.

Did you even read the comment I quoted when I said that? I don't see anyone trying to stir the pot with that guy?

Is is just because I'm new here? I have to earn my place or something? I'm not part of the Tige clique? That is exactly the kind of attitude I can't tolerate.

For the record, there are plenty of Tige guys on WW defending Tige, they use the same names on there......see for yourself and read the ASR thread.......but what do I know? I"m sure that what I say falls on deaf ears anyway.

By the way: Did you ever consider that the attitudes people have towards the boats they own or don't own is perpetuated by the manufacturers? Read through some of the literature on the home pages of each manufacturer. Even Tige slams the use of drag devices used by other companies to create surf waves when Tige says how their hulls are better designed and don't need them.

I think TallTigeGuys point is that there are lots of people on TO with different brands of boats, and to some it seemed as if you were calling out other brands for bashing Tige and then you went on to bash them back. I get that your defending Tige and that's great, we all love (or mostly like) Tige as well. Keep it up, speak your mind, that's what this site is about.

I will give you a little background though, when you spoke unfavorably on Axis it his a nerve with a few on here, especially TigeIdaho since he is shopping for a new boat and has been looking at Axis as a serious contender for his next boat. Axis is trying to do what Tige tried to do in the beginning, and that is to bring a great quality wake without the price tag of the big3. Now that Tige is sliding up the economic scale many Tige owners aren't able to keep up with the rising prices so they have to look elsewhere for a quality boat at a bargain price. Do I think 80K is a bargain for an Axis, no, but is it a bargain compared to a 24MXZ? Yes. The style of boats is all subjective and if it looks good to enough people, it will sell and keep the company in business.

Onto the Tige clique, welcome to the fold, there are many members who disagree with each other with a passion. Take it personally or not, but there are lots of opinions here and lots of people willing to share them so adding to it is great, especially when we get truck wars going again.

Back to the ASR, for towing weight, I expect it to sit on the trailer between 8300-8500lbs. I used a little algebra to scale up the difference in weight from my 4150 dry weight of the RZ2 to the sitting on the trailer weight of 6400. I multiplied the 5400 dry weight of the ASR, multiplied by the trailer weight of my RZ2, 6400, then divided that number by the dry weight of the RZ2 to get 8328. The ASR is bigger and can hold more gear and stuff so I expect it would weigh in closer to 8500 with a full tank of gas. Of course these numbers are just an estimate, and I'm looking forward to someone actually putting it on a scale, but I know that it's not a little boat and I'd have to get a bigger truck if I wanted to pull it.

[McSpoon]

^^^Ewok, I appreciate what your saying. I totally agree. I know this site is different in that most of the time it's constructive criticism, as opposed to slander and backbiting that is found elsewhere. I don't expect anyone to agree with my opinions, but I do expect to be treated with respect, as does anyone.

Having an opinion doesn't make me stupid and ignorant, it's not accepting others opinions that is ignorant.

Iron sharpens iron as they say.

Towing the ASR: http://www.airforums.com/forums/f463...ing-87276.html

check out this thread Ewok, you might be suprised.

I think the real question for towing is: Not, "Can my vehicle tow the ASR?" But, "Can my vehicle tow the ASR safely?" There is way too much information on the web regarding this issue and it probably doesn't need to be rehashed here.

Does anyone have any experience with the supercharged Caddy engine(The 550)?

[tigeidaho]

You judge me in one breath, and in the next call me ignorant and stupid!

HYPOCRITE! But I forgive you.

Did you even read the comment I quoted when I said that? I don't see anyone trying to stir the pot with that guy?

Is is just because I'm new here? I have to earn my place or something? I'm not part of the Tige clique? That is exactly the kind of attitude I can't tolerate.

For the record, there are plenty of Tige guys on WW defending Tige, they use the same names on there......see for yourself and read the ASR thread.......but what do I know? I"m sure that what I say falls on deaf ears anyway.

By the way: Did you ever consider that the attitudes people have towards the boats they own or don't own is perpetuated by the manufacturers? Read through some of the literature on the home pages of each manufacturer. Even Tige slams the use of drag devices used by other companies to create surf waves when Tige says how their hulls are better designed and don't need them.




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That's funny that you would use the word HYPOCRITE, that's exactly what I would've called you had i been in a teenage name calling mood. Your not being persecuted so jump down

Let me explain my point of view. We own a 2002 tige. It's what we could afford at the time. Now we are in a position to upgrade and based on our wants there are only a couple of boats that fit the bill. I honestly don't care what the name is on the side of the boat and have never bought into manufacturers hype. We are seriously considering an A22 as it meets our wants and budget. They may seem straight up cheap to you but for us its as nice as we can afford and enjoy the thrill of ordering a new boat.
As far as people calling me out. I'm not worth the time or effort. Or they agree with me. Cheers

[duffymahoney]

I think the axis boats are awesome, especially if you want to wakeboard. New boats are stupidly expensive. I own a house that is similar priced to some of these boats.

[McSpoon]

That's funny that you would use the word HYPOCRITE, that's exactly what I would've called you had i been in a teenage name calling mood. Your not being persecuted so jump down

Let me explain my point of view. We own a 2002 tige. It's what we could afford at the time. Now we are in a position to upgrade and based on our wants there are only a couple of boats that fit the bill. I honestly don't care what the name is on the side of the boat and have never bought into manufacturers hype. We are seriously considering an A22 as it meets our wants and budget. They may seem straight up cheap to you but for us its as nice as we can afford and enjoy the thrill of ordering a new boat.
As far as people calling me out. I'm not worth the time or effort. Or they agree with me. Cheers

I'm not going to get in a fruitless argument, so we'll leave it alone. Peace.

As for the Axis, my wife and I love the look of the boat, actually more than our Z1 and we looked at buying one first. But, for us, there was a lot that was lacking in the interior/tower/windshield. I was just in a brand new A24 and A22 and the wakeboard wakes are better than my Z1. But if you want to stay in a Tige keep reading.

I bought s 13' z1 in July for 65k loaded! I could've taken of the VX and down graded from the premium audio, taken of the biMini and got that down to below 60k easy. Your probably going to spend more than that on an A22. Call Brandon at Heinen Motorsports in Osseo, MN they still have some 13's left at better deals than I got.

They are not in the habit of making huge mark ups on their boats as Tige has a small presence here in MN and they want to get boats in peoples driveways rather than rape you over the price. Don't take my word for it, Call Brandon and see for yourself. I bet they will have some killer deals on the ASR's too when Tige gets around to slapping a price on them.

On a side note: I went to college in Missoula, MT and was planning on taking a road trip back there soon because we might be moving back there. I might be down for transporting a boat(most of the way) if you got one from here(MN). And you thought I was a d-bag????

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[tigeidaho]

That sounds like a great deal on a z1. I appreciate the heads up.

I don't think anyones a d bag until they prove it! No worries here :thumbup:

[barry1me]

I bought s 13' z1 for 65k loaded! I could've taken of the VX and down graded from the premium audio, taken of the biMini and got that down to below 60k easy. Your probably going to spend more than that on an A22. Call Brandon at Heinen Motorsports in Osseo, MN they still have some 13's left at better deals than I got.

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wow that is a great deal. My dealer was trying to sell me a 13 Z1 with convex VX, 343, dual Rev 8s, heat, posiden flooring, pro ballast for $78k with a ton of quality issues with the boat.....and it sold.

[duffymahoney]

I have a buddy that buys a new MB every year. He somehow talked the dealer into a special markup promising to a buy a new one every year. He gets his in the high 50k range and then sells them for around 52-54k. So he loses a few k a year and always has a new boat. They are great wakeboard boats. You should check them out and I bet you can find a deal on one. The B52 throws a great surf wave and a great wakeboard wake. They have nice fit and finish as well.

As for the ASR, when are we gonna see surf shots! Ragboy has to have some. My guess is nobody has dialed it in yet??

[WakerideN]

That's funny that you would use the word HYPOCRITE, that's exactly what I would've called you had i been in a teenage name calling mood. Your not being persecuted so jump down

Let me explain my point of view. We own a 2002 tige. It's what we could afford at the time. Now we are in a position to upgrade and based on our wants there are only a couple of boats that fit the bill. I honestly don't care what the name is on the side of the boat and have never bought into manufacturers hype. We are seriously considering an A22 as it meets our wants and budget. They may seem straight up cheap to you but for us its as nice as we can afford and enjoy the thrill of ordering a new boat.
As far as people calling me out. I'm not worth the time or effort. Or they agree with me. Cheers

I can respect your point of view.... but more curious. what is it that the A22 offers you that the others don't? speak freely. I think what you have to say is worth hearing. And if not an A22, what are the others that fit what your looking at?

[McSpoon]

That sounds like a great deal on a z1. I appreciate the heads up.

I don't think anyones a d bag until they prove it! No worries here :thumbup:

I forgot to mention, all the boats have the 343, VX, gel coat, rev 10's, poseidon, pro surf ballast. Like I said, Loaded! I bet my boat MSRP'd for mid to high 80's