Throttle Issues

[carlamason]

I have a '07 Tige VE24 when we put the boat in neutral and then go into drive or reverse many times it will not engage. If I turn the engine off and then re-engage we power into drive or reverse. It is a complete pain. I had the throttle replaced once that seemed to fix the problem but does anyone know what is going on? I do not want to replace throttle again and the Tige shop seems to never be able to duplicate problem.

This seems to be very similar to the post regarding throttle cutting out. Any ideas would be welcome.

Carla Mason

[westgate]

I have a 2007 22VE that is doing the same thing. So keep me posted if you find a solution. I'm 2 hour one way to the closest dealer seem to be a common problem they are checking to see if there was a recall that I missed.

[foxfam312]

I have the same problem We have a 2006 22v this is the third time the pincieameter I think that is how it is spelled goes out we have it fixed it 3 times now, and about 3 or 4 outings later it goes away, so something in the system is burning these things out, and at 400 bucks a pop this is getting expensive

[csleaver]

Look at this post

http://www.tigeowners.com/forum/show...200#post628200

[chpthril]

I have a '07 Tige VE24 when we put the boat in neutral and then go into drive or reverse many times it will not engage. If I turn the engine off and then re-engage we power into drive or reverse. It is a complete pain. I had the throttle replaced once that seemed to fix the problem but does anyone know what is going on? I do not want to replace throttle again and the Tige shop seems to never be able to duplicate problem.

This seems to be very similar to the post regarding throttle cutting out. Any ideas would be welcome.

Carla Mason

Carla,

The transmission is mechanically engaged/disengaged by a cable. The throttle on the engine, which controls engine speed, is controlled by the Engine Control Module using a throttle position signal received by the ECM from the throttle level and a throttle motor on the engine driven by the ECM. So, if you have a transmission that's not engaging into gear, you have a mechanical problem with the throttle linkage or cable. If the engine is not revving up, then its either sensing a problem with another engine sensor and going in to protect mode, or you have problem with the throttle position sensor, ECM or throttle motor.

Which exactly are you experiencing.

[chpthril]

I have the same problem We have a 2006 22v this is the third time the pincieameter I think that is how it is spelled goes out we have it fixed it 3 times now, and about 3 or 4 outings later it goes away, so something in the system is burning these things out, and at 400 bucks a pop this is getting expensive

My gut tells me that they have yet to actually fix it, rather then repeated failure of the same part. Also, how much time is elapsing between the failures. Is there no warranty on the parts or the diagnosis?

[majestic]

I have had this issue the last two years and in my case its from not keeping my batteries charged. What I am told is the ECM senses two different voltages from the dual batteries and sends it into a limp mode. If you restart the boat you can get maybe one or two rides and it happens again. I charged my batteries and had zero issues the next day after having the problem. The fix I was told us to wire the throttle to the same battery as the ECMbut I haven't put in the work yet to investigate how to fix. I do have witing diagrams from Tige that i can email if someone can figure it out. For now I am just using my inboard charger more to keep the batteries charged and it hasn't been an issue.

[helodancer]

Throttle Issue

The transmission engages but the engine will not rev up frequently. I have to shut the engine off and restart but this does not always work the first time. It works okay several times and then the problem occurs about every other start. What suggestions can you offer?

[majestic]

The transmission engages but the engine will not rev up frequently. I have to shut the engine off and restart but this does not always work the first time. It works okay several times and then the problem occurs about every other start. What suggestions can you offer?

Make sure your batteries are charged all the way and see if it is still occurring.

[csleaver]

If you are looking for a replacement throttle sensor/potenciometer(sp?) Then check this out. It might be the one you need.

http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/...DojESlYA%3d%3d

Good luck.

[csleaver]

http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/...DojESlYA%3d%3d

Had a problem with the link. I'll try again. If not, it is at mouser.com part number 682-9861R5KL2.0

[brett22i]

If I understand you correctly, The boat will start, it will engage into gear (foward & reverse), but the engine sometimes does not respond as you advance the thottle to accelerate?

Everyone that has posted is onto the right track.
1. It could be the wiring of the electronics to the same battery, there are several issues posted about this. Easy fix and also make sure you have good condition and properly charged batteries.
2. As Chpthril explained the throttle (gas)for that boat is all electronic. The ECM is the computer that regulates the control and there is a sensor attatched to the throttle handle which sends a signal to the throttle body sensor on the intake manifold to allow air in. Its a very advanced system and special software is made to diagnose these engines, a Marine Power dealer can pull the error codes.


This may help you if issues I have had sound like what you are experiencing.
My boat would start fine, every now and then while excellerating almost on plane the engine would sputter, pop and act as if it wants to stall and die. It would sometimes recover and keep going. When I would run the engine for a good bit 30 minutes+, let it sit while hanging out, upon restarting it would sputter, idle low, try to stall and even if I tried to rev the engine up in nuetral it wouldnt rev up, it would try but would act as if it was running out of gas and misfire terribly! If this sounds familiar I have had issues with my throttle body more than once. The throttle body allows air into the intake manifold, the butterfly opens via electric motor that is sent a signal from the throttle sensor and the ECM. That throttle body gets dirty and the butterfly sticks hence depriving the engine of air. If this is a scenario similar to yours I would clean the flame arrestor and throttle body. My alernator belts were loose and the rubber dust was being sucked into the flame arrestor and then gunking up the butterfly causung it to jam.
Take the weather cover off the top of the engine. Below it you will see the round metal flame arrestor. remove the 11mm nuts that hold the triangle mount for the weather cover and remove mount. Gently pull the breather hose from the barb and remove the flame arrestor. (Wiggle it back and forth while pulling up) The throttle body is right there below. Be gentle when cleaning the opening and the brass butterfly. With the ignition off, the butterfly will open manaully by pressing down on the lower side. Wipe clean, you can use a rag with carbuerator cleaner to remove any gunk (spray onto rag and wipe)try to keep and contaminents from going into manifold. I would run the engine attached to a hose before completely reassembling, rev the engine in nuetral and this may have been your problem? (obviously, dont test on land with engine in gear/prop turning)
Do not take the throttle body apart, I learned a $250 lesson the other day and those are not meant to be messed with. Mine was almost dead anyways so it was my last attempt to try and make it work again.
I have sent you a PM with my cell number feel free to call if you have other questions.

[helodancer]

What did the throttle cost? We have similar problem.

[brett22i]

You can clean it first rather than buying a replacement.
I spoke to Marine Power, PCM and Dom from Forte's will all tell you those things are bullet proof and rarely defective.
I had one replaced under warranty when my boat was brand new less than 10 hours, it left me stranded on the water 3 times. My boat was a left over model year and I believe that exessive moisture in the bilge damaged the sensor/movement of the throttle body as it sat in the yard prior to my purchase.
I am friends with the dealer and was able to simply get another one rather than screwing with be stranded. This latest one I had to purchase because I got a little too curious when cleaning it because it kept malfunctioning no matter how much I tried to make it stop jamming. I opened the plastic motor/gear cover and I damaged the component. Like I said earlier, I didnt have much else to try cause it was on its last leg anyways.
Clean it and see what happens, I have the part number and box at home. Dont go buying one yet, that might not be the exact problem, dont throw money at the boat without going through the basics first.
You will have instant results after cleaning if it is in fact gunked up. Most of the time if you just move the butterfly manually it will fire right up and run fine but will get stuck again if dirty.

If you choose to purchase another throttle body, they retail for $271 plus a few bucks for a new gasket. (I think). I purchased mine through Ski Discount Inboard Marine ask for Vince. I paid just under $250 but I am local to their shop and didnt have to pay for shipping.
http://www.skidim.com/

[foxfam312]

Thx for the replies it never dawned to me about the batteries I will check them out