tweaked prop

[caddy0150]

HEY I WAS DRIVING UP THE RIVER AND BENT MY PROP HOW EASY IS IT TO REMOVE THE PROP CAN I DO IT WITHOUT SOME KIND OF SPECIAL PULLER I SHOULD BE ABLE TO REPAIR IT AS IT ONLY HAS THE ENDS SLIGHTLY BENT ,I WAS GETTING A SLIGHT VIBRATION IS THAT FROM THE PROP?

[TeamAllen]

Sorry to hear about your damaged prop.
You will need a puller to remove it.
The vibration is most likely from the prop.

You might want to think about purchasing a new one, then have your current one repaired so you will have spare.

[whitlock87]

The prop should be rebalanced after being fixed.
I would ask Acme for the shop in your area

To fix and blance should run around 150.00

[laserfish]

Get the whole prop removal kit, puller, wrench, cotter pin and wodruff key. That and a spare prop are weekend savers. Sure beats a long, sad ride home.

[SPBFAN]

I can get you a prop puller kit, tools and storage bag and a new prop for if you are getting a 537 for $591.00 and that is shipped to your front door. Or I can get you a 1235 and puller kit for $655.00. PM me if you are interested.

[wellspun]

Hi, I was out at Havasu last weekend and also bent my prop a bit. Not enough to have any noticeable vibration, but the tips are pretty worked.

Gonna check and see what prop is currently on the boat, but in the meantime which prop would you suggest for a 07 24Ve? Probably going to have this one repaired, and then purchase a new one and a puller kit for future incidents.

Thanks, Doug

[chpthril]

Hi, I was out at Havasu last weekend and also bent my prop a bit. Not enough to have any noticeable vibration, but the tips are pretty worked.

Gonna check and see what prop is currently on the boat, but in the meantime which prop would you suggest for a 07 24Ve? Probably going to have this one repaired, and then purchase a new one and a puller kit for future incidents.

Thanks, Doug

The stock prop would have been the ACME 537. The upgrade for this would be the ACME 1235. Just need to verify what prop you currently have, the number is stamped on the hub.

I have both in stock and can ship out tomorrow with a Harmonic puller included. Traditional C-clamp style would need to be ordered and would be a small up-charge. Same with Weekend saver kit with your choice of pullers.

[SPBFAN]

I also have the prop in stock. I differ with your needs just a little from CHP. Are you going to be surfing or Wake boarding most of the time. The 1235 will certainly drop your top end speed and you will use more fuel. But the 1235 is the best prop for surf wake development and I noticed that on my boat it even changed the wake boarding wake. My fuel mileage was cut in just about half though from the 1235 verse the 537. I can have it to you with in to days from shipping distance.

[chpthril]

I also have the prop in stock. I differ with your needs just a little from CHP. Are you going to be surfing or Wake boarding most of the time. The 1235 will certainly drop your top end speed and you will use more fuel. But the 1235 is the best prop for surf wake development and I noticed that on my boat it even changed the wake boarding wake. My fuel mileage was cut in just about half though from the 1235 verse the 537. I can have it to you with in to days from shipping distance.

1st, I'm sure glad we agreed last year that we would not compete over tigeowner.com sales, but I guess that went up in smoke when you posted an add for "Haney's Auto Marine Care" in my Fly High group buy thread that you also sell Fly High

2nd, How is your post differing from mine? We both agree that the stock prop is most likely the 537, we both stated that the 1235 would be an upgrade from the 537. In other words, You recommended the same thing as I, but your info is "more correct" then mine If you are differing with my post, then you are contradicting your first post where you quoted a price on the same 2 props that are being discussed.

3rd, I gotta call on your fuel consumption drop. No way in hell that that prop dropped your usage by 1/2 when used under the same conditions and for the same number of hours. Andy, you are making claims that I doubt can be backed up and you are only discrediting yourself. I will say that you may see an improvement in fuel consumption, as the 1235 will result in less prop slip over the 537.

Oh, I wont post prices that are less then MSRP, but I will beat the above quotes. Sorry to take this thread

[TeamAllen]

Wellspun, Sorry to hear about your prop. Either of these two guys will take good care of your propeller needs.

Not to get in the middle of this, but I thought you guys split the country with an East Coast/West Coast thing?

[SPBFAN]

CHP, It is not my intent to cause hard felling by any means. But I do want to address some of your challenges you just charged at me with. First and for most if it is going to cause friendships I will take the back seat because that is more important to me than any dollar is.

I think that everyone knows on this forum I don't make a lot if any money from this business. It is done for the love and passion for the sport and hobby. Just recently I have started to accelerate that a little with the hope like you have to one day own a boat dealership.

So Now I will try to defend this the best way I can.
If I look at this thread it appears I did responded to caddy0150 first.

To start,
My fuel mileage is drastically different but you have to remember I have the 6.0L PCM engine. So you are correct by asking do I have a good test and measurement against his exact set up the answer is(NO). I was telling him what changed on my boat without writing a novel. I guess I did not do a good job of that.

I took my boat to the fuel station and filled it up with the 381 TIGE Factory prop for my boat. I burned 3 gallons of gas in a 1 hour wake boarding session. I changed the prop to the 1235. Used the exact same lake, wakeboards, and even the same time in the morning with maybe a couple of degrees air temp difference and I burned 6 gallons of fuel. This is how I tested it. So based on this measurement my fuel mileage dropped in half.

I don't see where my post is in this thread? I can only assume you had it removed.http://tigeowners.com/forum/showthre...0962:confused: I do remember posting in the thread though. I posted my website www.automarinecare.com that gives the information and MSRP pricing on the FlyHigh Sacs, as well as MSRP pricing on any other products posted on the site. It is in compliance with and reviewed by all manufactures. It will continue to be handled in that fashion.

Mike, I certainly hope we can get through this as quickly as possible and continue to stay friends. If I were concerned about monopolizing the forum I certainly would not have sent you a $700.00 software program with a open key to activate it on your computer, I certainly would not have told you how I did my web page (not as if it is anything great anyways), and I certainly would not have told you how I set myself up with the vendors for product sales. I was more concerned about helping you not stunting you or stopping you on the forum. My friendship is worth more than the dollar.

If your concern is the FlyHigh thread I am SORRY if I stepped out of turn in the thread I certainly will use more caution with that next time. And if you ever feel I have stepped out of bounds let me know via PM and I will have the post removed from the thread or if it is not to late I will remove it with the edit function.

I by no means intend to steel business for you. I am a sponsor to the Vegas event. I pay to sponsor it. I pay to have my name on the shirts. This year I was taking a back seat to sponsoring it until I received phone calls from the local guys. I have paid for product give away. I have had some donated by certain vendors through business relationships and I do feel that those vendors deserve their recognition for the generosity and continued support year after year in support of the event.

I do appreciate when guys by product from me as it helps me recoup some very small amounts and not all but some of the cost I put into the event.

I hope in the future personal issues can be taken of the forum. I have certainly not been the perfect angel when it comes to posting personal issue, but I have certainly learned from it. Going forward, I hope that we can continue to stay friends and feel comfortable helping each other and everyone on the forum.

I will see you in Vegas and hope you will be able to spend some time surfing with us on our boat as you certainly are welcome to do so and I will certainly appreciate the help as it will be me and four teenage boys, (of which you can probaly help a lot in teaching them to surf as I learned a lot from you one year). Only one of them is just learning how to handle the boat which in my son. He will not be driving it for me at Mead if I can help it I want to keep the boat on top of the water not under it. He thinks water over the nose is a cool thing and a good test on the wetsounds especially when the girls are in the front and they start to scream as they see the wave of water coming over the bow.

[chpthril]

CHP, It is not my intent to cause hard felling by any means. But I do want to address some of your challenges you just charged at me with. First and for most if it is going to cause friendships I will take the back seat because that is more important to me than any dollar is.

Our friendship kinda fizzled about 2 years ago, even before MLA was born. Remember those speakers of CP3's, the ones you were going to buy from him and you asked if I would ship them to you, for him, and you would reimburse me for and I agreed, without hesitation! Then you asked if I would be willing to take the freight out in trade with something from CWB, as you were putting together your first dealer order, and I said sure, that would be fine because I was looking at getting a heater shirt for the wife anyway. Well, I got neither the heater shirt nor the monetary reimbursement. Then, once you had the speakers, you wanted to beat CP3 down for them, and ended up sending them back.

To start,
My fuel mileage is drastically different but you have to remember I have the 6.0L PCM engine. So you are correct by asking do I have a good test and measurement against his exact set up the answer is(NO). I was telling him what changed on my boat without writing a novel. I guess I did not do a good job of that.

I took my boat to the fuel station and filled it up with the 381 TIGE Factory prop for my boat. I burned 3 gallons of gas in a 1 hour wake boarding session. I changed the prop to the 1235. Used the exact same lake, wakeboards, and even the same time in the morning with maybe a couple of degrees air temp difference and I burned 6 gallons of fuel. This is how I tested it. So based on this measurement my fuel mileage dropped in half.

For this, I will apologize. I misunderstood your original post and interpreted it as you cut your fuel consumption in half. Boats dont have odometers, so it's not common the see "fuel mileage", so when I saw "cut in half" I read it as fuel used per hour. So again, my mistake.

But, this does bring up an interesting, thing. This is the first Tige I have seen with a 381, especially factory. That prop has a 17.5" pitch and the 1235 has a 14.25". That is a 3.25" drop in pitch. That drop very well could have caused your GPH to double (or MPG to be cut by .5). If the 381 was indeed the correct factory supplied prop for your boat, based on gear and engine, IMO, the 537 may have been a better choice for both increased hole-shot and minimal increase in RPM's. The 537 is a 1.5" drop in pitch from the 381. Sounds like your selling dealer installed the wrong prop when they reworked the running gear after you bought it.


So, for anyone going from the 537 to the 1235, you should not see this kind of increase in fuel consumption, you may actually see a slight drop.

I don't see where my post is in this thread? I can only assume you had it removed.http://tigeowners.com/forum/showthre...0962 I do remember posting in the thread though. I posted my website www.automarinecare.com that gives the information and MSRP pricing on the FlyHigh Sacs, as well as MSRP pricing on any other products posted on the site. It is in compliance with and reviewed by all manufactures. It will continue to be handled in that fashion.

Page 3, post 34 http://www.tigeowners.com/forum/show...high+group+buy . It's still there, I did not ask the Admin to remove it. It was viewed by many, that PM'd me, as a crystal clear advertisement in order to plug your own website. I had Fly High's website listed in the opening post, so if anyone had a question, they could easily ask me, or find the same info and more, by going direct to Fly High.

IMO, this was unprofessional and uncalled for. How many quotes of mine did you undercut? As you stated, you dont sell for the money, so it would be very easy to do out of spite. I've had a couple people contact me after getting a quote from you, I've told them "thats a great price, I cant beat it". I stood behind my word that I was not going to compete with you over Tigeowner.com sales.

Then we come to the latest. I posted up a group buy on ACME props, in hopes of reaching the first level dealer price break, so I could offer a better price for 1 local customer and one that I was working a complete ballast system up for. Within hours, you posted up with a thread as well.

If I recall, it was actually your idea that we should divide the country by East and West after I posted in a thread that I was not looking to compete with you, and would be willing to help any Tige owner in any way I could. I know I referred a few your way, but the only one I know I got from you was some dude off WW, but I think he took my quote and either went back to you, or his local dealer beat it.

Mike, I certainly hope we can get through this as quickly as possible and continue to stay friends. If I were concerned about monopolizing the forum I certainly would not have sent you a $700.00 software program with a open key to activate it on your computer, I certainly would not have told you how I did my web page (not as if it is anything great anyways), and I certainly would not have told you how I set myself up with the vendors for product sales. I was more concerned about helping you not stunting you or stopping you on the forum. My friendship is worth more than the dollar.

I'll return the unused office program. As you can tell, my website is not up and running. I'm working on having it done for me. I appreciate the gesture, but you offered it, I didnt ask you for it.

Now, You didnt share anything with me about getting setup with vendors, as I never asked. I needed no help with that in any way shape or form, I've had zero problems getting setup all my vendors in one simple phone call. Matter of fact, I have not been turned down by anyone but DIY Wake. This is ok though, as he his using "open tooling" on his cans and it's only a matter of time before I find the manufacture. It seems, by your own admission, that you have had difficulty with most of your vendors. One had originally turned you down, then after finding out I was a dealer, you took another shot at it.

I by no means intend to steel business for you. I am a sponsor to the Vegas event. I pay to sponsor it. I pay to have my name on the shirts. This year I was taking a back seat to sponsoring it until I received phone calls from the local guys. I have paid for product give away. I have had some donated by certain vendors through business relationships and I do feel that those vendors deserve their recognition for the generosity and continued support year after year in support of the event.

Dont know why you bring this up, this is between you and The Boat Shop. Professionally, it has no bearing on MLA. Personally, I'm surprised that Matt has allowed you to come back as a sponsor considering the 2 public flamings you have given him that were not in any way deserved.

If I look at this thread it appears I did responded to caddy0150 first.

Yep, and if you were holding true to your word, you would have noticed he lives in FL.

Now, if you go back and read, I quoted Wellspun, and answered his questions directly. It wasn't until your next post that I got rubbed the wrong way. Still dont understand how you are differing from me when we both recommended the same prop

I guess we both have done our part to damage what could have been a friendship as well as two business owners working together for the common good of the forum. I thought having a mutual and professional understanding would be the best for all, the last thing we, as in the whole site, needs is Matt pulling a dave williams and shutting down all group type buys, especially those organized by dealers.

Again, sorry to all for this post. Lets get it back on the topic of props.

[SPBFAN]

It is best I do not say anything more than this as it will continue to fuel the fire and as I have said this really needs to be talked about off forum. If there are frustration or issue I am certainly willing to talk about them and work through those issue to set things right.

CP3's issue. CP3 understood that I was not able to use them. They were returned in better condition than I received them in. He did not seem to have any issues with me about it that I knew about. I never tried to cut him in anything. I was giving him the price he asked for. CP3 even asked how I got them polished out so well and looking so good when he got them back.

The heater shirts. I do remember this. I sent you a PM about it today. I did not know you did not get them nor did you ever tell me.

In the PM I explained to you how this happened. That was less than 2 years ago.

I do not have any problem making this square. Nor have I ever. Not saying it is your fault at all. More so my fault for not catching that they never shipped. I explained why in the PM and for the vendors sake that information should not be posted. It will be requested to be removed if it is.

This is all I will say and I agree, lets get back to what this thread is about, and take this off forum. I hope you can pick up the phone and give me a call so we can get this all sorted out and back to business and having fun. I am sorry you feel this way and I hold no grudges what so ever. I will see you in Vegas.

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