Weight placement in 22iR

[rock_n_boardin]

Check out letsgoride.com they have great sacs for a great price. They are very tough and don't need a cover. I put the 350# in each back storage area and a 600# in the bow walkway. The wake is sick!! I might even add some lead to get it up to 2000#s. Spread it out evenly.

[ssrgeoff]

Dont suppose you have any pics? I think your weight set up would work for me just fine. Maybe another 300lbs in lead.

[rock_n_boardin]

No pics that I can think of. But it's pretty earsy to visualize. On the 22I you have the 2 back corner storage areas. I set one 350# sac in each and fill "sometimes I leave the one on the drivers side a little less full to make up for the drivers weight, ince chest I sit behind the driver and the prop rotation. Anyway one in each and a 600# one in the bow walk area. I want to replace the 600# one up front with lead in the future to save room. I only trailer my boat less than a mile at a time so the weight is no big deal.

[ssrgeoff]

Are you in Canyon Lake? I see how weight wouldnt be a problem. yeah I can visualize where you put the ballast I was wondering if you had any pics of the wake when weighted.

[rock_n_boardin]

Yep Canyon Lake. I might have some pics of the wake at home. But if not I will take some next time we are out and fully weighted. I have a lot of pics, but we have been shooting with a pretty big zoom lens. So it's hard to get a feel for how big the wake is. I will take a few with the normal lense so you can see the whole wake next time. Probably be over Memorial Day Weekend.

[ssrgeoff]

Are you weighted when your in Canyon? You have the citrus green 22i right?

[ssrgeoff]

When can you weight?

I posted that the boat was running weird my last outing since I had quite a bit of people and everyone was in the back except for 2 young kids in the front. It may have been because the water sucked but we will see this weekend when its just my wife and I so I can get her more time behind the wheel.

Anyhow........
When can I start weighing the boat down? Should I wait till after the 20hr. service? I was told not to go over 4000 rpm until after the service so I have been waiting on filling up the ballast, but Im impatient. Any one know? I have 15hrs so I can "weight" if its highly recommended.

[rock_n_boardin]

That is me. Citrus or Lime green Tige'. I add weight only on the backwater, not on the main lake where it's not allowed. Plus I don't want to contribute to the banging of boats on the docks or any erosion. Also it's usually a lot better on the backwater if you want to do serious boarding.

As far as weighting it before the 20 hour service. I would hate to advise your any different than they have and then you run into a problem. Probably better to wait until after the 20 hour mark at least if not the 20 hour service.

Did you buy you Tige' at Tige' watersports?

[rock_n_boardin]

BTW you could weight it and probably not go over 4000 RPMs if your careful. BUt it will still be more strain on the engine.

How was it running when you say it was running crappy? Explain.

[rock_n_boardin]

I might be on the backwater tomorrow, I will be sure to take some pics of the bags and the wake without the zoom lense so you can get an ideal on how big it will get.

[ssrgeoff]

Yeah I saw you over Memorial Weekend. You had just pulled up and we were on our way back out to the main lake after being tied up to 5 other boats. It was a nice weekend. Lots of Harbor Patrol. I didnt want to yell out like a groupie so I am sure I will see you again out there when its not so crowded. (This was Sunday)

Monday I headed over to Elsinore and decided to run in chop all day long and dodge waverunners. What was weird this go around is that I actually had about 9 people in the back of the boat with me varying in size and as soon as I would get up to speed, the power would drop I had to keep giving it gas just to stay at 20 mph. At some points it would get a thrust of energy and then blast up to 30-35 mph. Even with the PP set it seemed like the motor was working overtime. Not to mention, this was the first time that my bilge had to kick on itself. I am going to try and make it out to Elsinore again this weekend for a little bit to run the boat in the chop again without all the neighbors and see if it runs any different.

Yes, bought from Tige Watersports...... Picture is in the gallery.

[rock_n_boardin]

Sounds like a problem with the perfect pass maybe. Was it turned on when this was happening? If you have Perfect Pass on and try to run up on speed it sometimes will engage and pull you slower to you original speed.

When running with PP we had a problem once that sounds like your's too, it happened because the PP paddle wheel was damaged on the bottom on the boat and did not spin freely. Otherwise it might be electrical, is your volt meter needle moving around a lot? They had a problem with the wire harness on our 22I, it shakes loose because of the angle it plugs in at. It was a recall item, they fixed it but it happened again. Just got it fixed permanitely last week. They rerouted the wires and zip tied it down. Now it's golden.

I saw you too, not many 22Is out there.

[rock_n_boardin]

What my thoughts are if it happened to be the problem I explained with the eletrical the heavy chop could shake the boat and loosen the wire harness. With us it did not bother the performance of the boat, but it kept shutting down the perfect pass whenever the volt meter would drop real low. The needle would shake back and forth violently.

[ssrgeoff]

You know I thought that too.... but I ran it without the PP to see what was happening. Same thing......

I havent been using the PP lately because as soon as I pull someone up out of the water there is massive speed loss then it picks up. I read in the PP manual to adjust a black knob where the (servo?) is located on the motor. I am not mechanicaly inclined so I rather have the guys at Tige Watersports try and fix that during the 20hr service. I can still pull with it it just bugs that this surge happens. Like I said I willl see what it does with just my wife and I this weekend I am just worried if this will be an on going problem especially when I decide to add balast.

BTW I wasnt in my boat last weekend but there was a 21i same color combo as mine.

[rock_n_boardin]

So once the PP engages you get the surge "loss of power". Yeah might be the problem they talk mention.

I know with my PP I get it up to speed and once it engages I play with the throttle and help the PP settle in. If you over shoot the speed that it engages at and just let off the throttle it takes the PP a while to settle in. But if you kinda feather the throttle when the PP slows to get back to the proper speed you can keep it from overshooting below the speed you set. Kinda help it along. Then you can get to the proper speed much quicker without the overshoot undershoot situation. It takes a little pracitce, but after a while it's easy.

I do the same thing on turns, you can feather the throttle and help out the PP so it doesn's fight to get back to speed. It keeps the speed more constant, expecially on double ups. Usually when you enter the turn it will slow down and exit it will speed up and usually overshoot the desired speed. So I add a little throttle at the beg. of the turn and feather it back when I exit the turn.