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    #16
    T* is there an email address I can hit you at?

    thank you

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      #17
      T - Where do you guys ride?

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        #18
        Usually at Goldsboro/Susquehanna River.

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          #19
          T* is correct that proper edging technique is the key to getting good air. I can't do it, but I have heard over and over coaches talking about progressive edge and loading the line. My son can do inverts over other boats rollers and behind a seadoo. We did not add the first pound of ballast to our 22i until he had learned his first backroll.

          As far as the weighting, we used a v-drive sac in each rear locker and a integrated bow sac under the front seats. We did add up to 500 lbs of lead this summer when there were no passengers going out with us. Fully loaded we ran 23 - 24 mph and the taps around 5 to keep the wake clean and not too much lip. I also agree the direct drive does not need as much up front - you can tell you need to add some if it starts porpoising. You will also want to upgrade to the Acme 525 prop.

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            #20
            Originally posted by T* View Post
            Right - I think that the 60 rear / 40 front ratio was arrived at with v-drives in mind, with the static motor weight already in the rear.

            I've not experimented w/my weight for wakeboarding very much - it just turns out that where I stuck the wwight produces a clean wake, fat enough to do inverts and spins, plus still have room in the storage compartments and not sink the bow. As it turns out, our ratio of add'l weight is 85 rear / 15 front.
            Actually V-Drives want more weight in the front.

            With TAPS, you're actually better off with a 50/50 distribution because that makes adjusting the TAPS plate the most effective. Your boat has a giant rocker that peaks at midship so having that balance accentuates the performance of trim tab in the back.

            The most common mistake I see folks making when weighting a Tige is to have too much weight in the back. By adding more weight to the front, you can crank up the TAPS setting to 7 or 8. As you do, you're allowing the back half of the boat to ride deeper in the water without creating affecting the horizontal pitch of the boat so that the wake falls over. This way your bow rides at the perfect angle. If you have too much weight in the back, your bow rides high, you plow more water and it makes the wake so steep it falls over after about 50' or 60'.
            Last edited by dogbert; 08-19-2009, 02:54 PM.
            Cursed by a fortune cookie: "Your principles mean more to you than any money or success."

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              #21
              It’s my understanding that the 22i and 22v have virtually the same running surface/hull. If you were to balance both of these boats on their hulls, the fulcrum would be close to the center on the 22i and much closer to the stern on the 22v due mainly to the placement of the motor. (If there are any CAD whizzes on the site, that might be a fun tool to create and play around with…). Weighting the 22i predominantly in the rear achieves a balance closer to that of a V-drive, which is technically a preferred wakeboat weight distribution.

              In any event, these suggestions are meant only to assist and possibly provide a baseline to other inboard owners – we’ll all play around with weight and settings as we see fit. We’re pleased w/the 22i’s wakeboarding weight config w/100# in the bow and 620# in the rear. General guideline for cleanest wake being 22 mph @ 65’; and 23 mph @ 70’ – adjust speed Perfect Pass or Speed Set by a few tenths as needed to dial in rider weight. There is no falling over of wake regardless of TAPs setting at riding speeds w/this weight distribution. Most intermediate and up riders prefer TAPs set to 8 w/this weight.

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                #22
                There have been lots of discussions on weighting. The general consensus is 50/50 for the direct drive and a little more in the front for the V-Drive.

                On my V-Drive, we usually run a pair of 400s in the V-Drive locker (but they are not always filled to capacity, depending on occupats) about 600 lbs in the integrated bow sac (it has a capacity of 750 lbs, but I can't fill it that much due to space issues). In addition, we have about 400-500 in the walkway. Without the 400-500 lbs in the walkway (or the equivalent in people, the wake will wash out beyond 60 or so feet. Most of the people I pull ride between 70' & 80'.

                Not looking to start an argument, but I have owned my boat for 10 years, ridden with the Tige team riders and spoken to their product designers
                Cursed by a fortune cookie: "Your principles mean more to you than any money or success."

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                  #23
                  22i Factory Ballast specs

                  Right on, Dogbert. In general though, when someone says, 'not to argue, but'; or 'no offense, but' - it's a good indication of what's coming.

                  Re: 22i weight, Tige's factory ballast set up for this direct-drive model is 150# tanks beneath the windshield on either side (nothing under the front seats or nose) and 300# tanks in each rear compartment. This translates to 33% midship (not front) / 67% rear. Weighting a 221 at 15% front / 85% rear would get you closer to Tige's factory set up balance than 50% front / 50% rear.

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