How does this wake look. first time out messing with the wake surfing wake.

[dmax1]

This was our first time messing with weight in the boat trying to get a surf wake. Keep in mind I had 5 people including myself in the boat moving them around and one 500lbs fat sac in the rear corner, this was about the best we got it with taps a 2.5 going about 11mph with no perfect pass.
http://vid603.photobucket.com/albums.../VIDEO0050.mp4

[NICKYPOO]

There's a surf wake in there for sure.

Couple things-

Speedos. How are you gauging your speed?

Taps. It kinda looks a little too aggressive. There's not a whole lot of weight in the boat either. With what you got now, I'd try raising the plate up to 8, drop the speed to 10mph and whatever the tach reads, start bumping it up from there in 100rpm increments up to 12mph on gps. Take a note on your rpm at what was the best looking. Go back to that rpm and start adding plate (taps) to clean it up. If you get to much plate into it, it'll start planing and gaining rpm. As you add taps, you'll need to settle the rpms back down. I'll take stab at 10.6mph gps taps 4.5, 500# in surfside corner. Total guess. Never been in that boat.

Prop? Specs.

FAE?

[dmax1]

Im just gauging my speed by the original speedos in the boat not gps or anything. next time we are out I will try by rpm. Im sure it isn't very accurate going off of the original speedos, I did have a 250lb person sitting on the corner seat that the 500lbs fat sac was on. and about 400lbs in people up front. I don't remember the spec on the prop I will have to look into it, I bought that one from wws here in denver they suggested that one, I have another prop as well but it allows the motor to over rev at top end thats why we changed it out. and I do not have a FAE.

Here is another vid. with no fat sac I just had 9 people in the boat. about 800lbs on the surf corner and 600lbs up front, same speed and taps at

1http://vid240.photobucket.com/albums...ps76e8c607.mp4

[MooseX]

looks too fast..and higher TAPS. We get our best results at 5 to 6 even 7. I use to run lower taps but it was a bitch to get just right

I agree with NP'... Def' on the right track BUT...more ballast. As much as your boat can handle. Go to any walmart and find some 'ladies' who will ride along for fun

Personally I hate relying on people for ballast. We run 3 or 4 max in my 24V just so we can all get in 3 good sessions. Too many people sucks..Well if they fill the gas tank that's dif' story

Get one or 2 of those 150 lb bricks and put them on the swim step. We have two on our swim step held on with 4 caribeeners. They auto slide to the wave side. Without them I don't get the little barrel at the end of the wave + an extra 4 to 6 inches bigger. We tried without them the other day and all my buddies were pissin' and moanin'

It's a cheap way to get wave height cause of the leverage you get with weight that far out on the stern. We keep one up front for counter weight. Sure it takes up room BUT like I said we don't go big with the crew. The wave is priority one in the Big A*S Ballast CLUB

[NICKYPOO]

Moose makes a good point. Location. I don't run that much ballast but, it's location is optimal making it very effective. With just people in the boat, all your "ballast" is midship. 500# in the rear locker is way more effective than 1000# in the cabin.

A simple gps app on a phone goes a long way to finding a baseline setup. RPMs are going to change basically every time out due to conditions and load. Finding a good speed is key and then adjusting by rpm will help you out.

[Stingreye]

@ Nick, Aren't you running no bow weight? I wonder if he has too much up front right now. Is his hull similar to yours on in a V-drive config? Your D.D. wave has to be one of the best DD's out there.

[MooseX]

when I first got my 24V I couldn't run ANY BOW WEIGHT with just the Enzos. Maybe one person.. Nope it wasn't until I added more stern mid ship ballast that I had to add 'counter weight' in the bow.

My current set up is>

2000 lb custom Wakemakers' in the rear lockers
2 150 lb. 'Oprah' bricks on the swim step
2 250 lb mid ship (both mid lockers)
1 150 lb. 'Oprah' in the bow

Thats pretty much the MAX my boat will tow without straining at 6250 ft. elevation

I can only dream of a 6.0 or big block. At sea level i'm sure I'd be running 'Duffy' weight

*Note: More than 4 in the boat we don't fill the rears all the way up

Taps 5.5, slight bend turning radius AND I always push people up into the bow when we start. Makes it real easy on the drive train. Speed depends on how rough the water is. Basically the tach stays right around 3k...that's our starting point. Speedo is worthless

Plus WE NEVER RUN OPPOSITE SIDE Weight. Boat is real sensitive to that. Fks' up the wave. Anyone caught sitting on the wrong side of the boat gets a quick scolding! The goal is to 'bury' the rub rail as far forward as possible

[NICKYPOO]

@ Nick, Aren't you running no bow weight? I wonder if he has too much up front right now. Is his hull similar to yours on in a V-drive config? Your D.D. wave has to be one of the best DD's out there.

Thanks man. I've worked hard to make it so.

You are correct. No bow weight. I also run my taps at 8 and tune the wake with speed and opposite side weight. Essentially, I'm maxing my angle of attack of the hull. Before the trunk mod, I couldn't seem to get the stern deep enough to counter the cavitation that hull is prone to. That's why I run opposite side weight as well, just to sink the transom further. It also helps the my driver is very good.

The 2200 is actually the first no spray pocket Tige. Mine has spray pockets. It very similar to the G boats. The 2200 hull is more like the Vs. I don't think it has the same dead rise as the Vs though. I don't think it has as much negative chine either.

dmax- you got any pics of the transom? If you wouldn't mind, one of the dash as well?

[dmax1]

Thanks for all the help I need as much as I can get! Here is some pics NP. Also the sac that I have is not 500 it's a 750 just realized it now. I purchased it off craigslist with a pump he told me it was a 500 granted it was probably about 70% full

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[NICKYPOO]

Thanks dmax. It has more chine than I thought.