Group Buy - Bullet Lines Underwater Marine Lights

[BulletLines]

I've been watching the shadow caster thread, and I want to offer Tige owners a group buy also.. Use the follow link to purchase our LEDs at $139.99each. BTW - No one is getting free lights as suggested in the shadow caster thread.


Bullet Lines' Under Water Transom LEDs. 6 x bulb LEDs in water proof stainless steel casing. Our LEDs are super bright, and will light up to 30' of water (depending on water clarity) behind your boat in 180 degrees. These lights were designed by Bullet Lines to out perform all other brands in brightness (Lumens), power consumption, heat, and ease of installation. LEDs mount to the rear wall (transom)of your boat under water, and come in your choice of white, blue, or red.

Features


Lights up to 30' of water.
Water proof stainless steel casing
Easy installation.
Low power consumption
Lumens: 360
Voltage: DC 12V
Power: 6W
Peak Angle: 180 degrees

http://www.bulletlines.com/servlet/t...s--dsh-/Detail



Ken Land
Bullet Lines / Krypt Towers
www.bulletlines.com

[lee]

The link shows $169.99 for the price.

[Eastern shore wake]

Hi, appreciate you offering us this group buy. Had a few questions about the lights. The link says $169.99 each. I assume group buy price is $139.99 each, correct? Also, how difficult is installation? What else do you need to buy for the installation?
Thanks!!!!

[Timmy!]

That seems like a much more affordable price to me than the shadow caster. It looks like the other brand has a much higher lumens output though.

[FacePlant]

That's a little more like it. I really like the Shadow Casters as well, but the price is right on these if they are even half as good......

[Tanner]

Perfect timing.... I've been meaning to order some of yours.... especially after I saw the shadow caster pricing!

PLUS you have red!!!!

[illiniboarder88]

Just my 2 cents worth on this. I bought something (handle) from this particular vender a few years ago, and I was not very happy with the overall experience (product or service). At the time, I looked at the price, looked at the pics, and thought it was a steal. It was considerably cheaper than what I thought were the equivalents from other vendors, so I pulled the trigger. I sort of got what I paid for, and it wasn't long before I replaced it with something else. I'm not trying to bash Ken. I just urge you to do your homework. A handle/line was relatively painless to replace. Underwater lights require holes in your hull, so I am guessing you only want to do this once. While I did not have a very good experience, a couple of friends have had pretty solid ones. I will also say that it was a couple years ago. I used one of his newer handles last summer, and it was considerably better than the one I had gotten from him.

[chadster2]

When this is done please post your pics and stories.
I'm thinking more is better, but untill I know I'm out
If I was needing a bedroom night light I'd use 40 watt
If I wanted to light up my driveway 200 watt flood light
I know we are not talking watts but just the same it depends
what your triing to do
If I wanted to light up a small swim area behind the boat
I'd get a $15 fishing light from walmart
(they work great for that)

[chadster2]

Starfire II Underwater Fishing Light

[BulletLines]

Bullet Lines Under Water Marine LED Group Buy.

I'm sorry for the delay in getting back to you, I thought I had this thread set to email me when a reply is posted.. Thank you to Talltigeguy for emailing me about the discussion.

I must have posted a bad link.. Here is the link again with the group buy offer: http://www.bulletlines.com/servlet/t...oup-Buy/Detail

Illiniboarder88- I'm sorry to hear about your experience. If you still have the handle, I'll be happy to replace it as long as it was a defective handle. Did you purchase a Poly Handle or Spectra Handle? What Color? What kind of grip?

Chadster- We are talking watts here. The reason people are not going out and purchasing swimming pool lights is because no one has the room needed for the nuclear power plant to run them. Also our LEDs have a life expectancy of up to 50,000 hours at 12.5v. Our lights will produce 360 Lumens at 12.5v and draw only 6 watts of power. Noticed I said 12.5v: most boats with the engine on will produce 13.5v, so our lights will burn brighter than 360 Lumens. However, the draw back is the lights will burn out faster.

Service and Warranty: Simply give us a call or email us for service. We warranty all our products.. These LEDs have a 1 year from manufacturer defect.

Installation is relatively simple, but we do suggest you install by a professional on anything electrical. I can install 2 LEDs in about 1 hour when tapping into existing courtesy lights. It takes me about 2 hours when I run new wire an connect to a new switch. Below is a cut and paste of the install guide:

Bullet Lines x6000 LED install guide

Important – For Safety LED Should Be Installed by a Professional – Must be installed under water line, and only used when submerged – Be sure inside of hull is free and clear in the mounting area before drilling – Countersink all drilled holes to avoid gel coat cracking.

Do not drive with LEDs on unless you check with your local, state, and federal waterway laws first.

Center Hole: Use ½” drill bit and drill ¼” (don’t drill all the way through fiberglass) deep: in the center of your hole drill all the way through your transom with a 3/16” drill bit.. Push LED wire through hole, hold LED flat against surface and mark mounting holes through eyelets. Mounting holes: Use 1/8” drill bit and drill ½” (don’t drill all the way through fiberglass) deep.

Fill up all countersink and screw holes with a quality marine grade underwater sealant.

Take LED and slide wire through center hole all the way into hull of boat. Make a ¼” bead of sealant tight around wire inside and outside of hull. Slowly push LED into position over mounting holes and slowly tighten mounting screws in holes.
Electrical connection: Attach provided inline fuse to red positive wire, and then attach positive wire to positive connection. Attach other color wire to a negative connection. Be sure positive connection is equipped with 2 amp circuit protection and that voltage is not higher than DC12.5V. Voltage with the boat engine on will be higher than 12.5v, the LEDs will be brighter, but the higher voltage will lower life expectancy of the LEDs. You can choose to add a simple voltage regulator if you are concerned.


Ken Land
Bullet Lines
www.bulletlines.com

[illiniboarder88]

Ken, no need to do that, and I appreciate the offer. It wasn't defective, per se, but it wasn't what I thought I was getting. It happens.

[talltigeguy]

Service and Warranty: Simply give us a call or email us for service. We warranty all our products.. These LEDs have a 1 year from manufacturer defect.


Important – For Safety LED Should Be Installed by a Professional – Must be installed under water line, and only used when submerged – Be sure inside of hull is free and clear in the mounting area before drilling – Countersink all drilled holes to avoid gel coat cracking.

Good to hear that you have all intention of backing up the product.

Using only when submerged...I think it would be OK when driving, they would get hot on the ramp is what you mean here, right? I also read about the life expectancy with the increased voltage.

Do you generally mean that you won't get 50K hours out of them at 13.5V? Or do you mean you might be lucky to have them last one season at 13.5V? I would certainly anticipate that the lights would get less hours than the motor in any given season, so definitely less than 75-100 hours for me.

[chadster2]

good come back, I'm impressed
Did I say pool? I'm sorry, I meant to say fishing.
Is Jake a friend of yours?
You seem to have some things in common.
I know my Ideas are out there. This conversation started a year ago
when I ask what was the best way to light up (behind the boat).

[BulletLines]

talltigeguy,

Our LEDs use a proprietary heat dispursing system, so our lights will run cooler than others. As long as a little bit of water is splashing against the LEDs they should be fine. We say to only use when submerged because we do not want people leaving them on outside of water. I use my LEDs while driving all the time..

No, you will not get 50,000 hours out of them at 13.5v. I would say that the average user should get at least 1000 hours before a burn out. Your boat will probably be in the junk yard before you use your LEDs for 1000 hours. Please remember that there are many factors when determining life of the LEDs: power, condition of electrical system(spikes in power), and heat. As the install guide says: if you are worried about the amount of power being sent to the light, then simply install a passive voltage regulator: these can be purchased under $10.

Chadster,

Sorry, I misread your post. You did say fishing light.

Ken

[chadster2]

If someone in Atlanta area has them installed, I'd love to have
a look see at night some time.