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    Originally posted by dogbert View Post
    Kind of an odd position for the ski pylon...
    CC has them there on a few of thier wake and cross-over series boats.
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      Dog, it looks like there are two pylons. Look in the first pic, you can see the pull from the middle. Is this an X14V? No tower, so likely not an "x." Nonetheless, I climbed around an X14v at a local dealer, and the center pylon in it was removeable. Stored under the seat. The concept of two pylons isn't bad. That rear one would be good for tubing.

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        Originally posted by illiniboarder88 View Post
        Dog, it looks like there are two pylons. Look in the first pic, you can see the pull from the middle. Is this an X14V? No tower, so likely not an "x." Nonetheless, I climbed around an X14v at a local dealer, and the center pylon in it was removeable. Stored under the seat. The concept of two pylons isn't bad. That rear one would be good for tubing.
        Its the Prostar 214v. And yes those are removable. Also to me it looks like an I/O...
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          Originally posted by zad0030 View Post
          Its the Prostar 214v. And yes those are removable. Also to me it looks like an I/O...
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            Zad, if your I/O statement is true, the Chappel guys can purchase a higher end boat knowing that they can wakesurf behind it

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              Originally posted by da.bell View Post
              Zad, if your I/O statement is true, the Chappel guys can purchase a higher end boat knowing that they can wakesurf behind it
              Im not saying it is an I/o, Im just saying the layout of the interior resembles that of an I/O.
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                $46k for a 22 footer. Based on some of the comments I am going to take an hour ride to Munson Marine near where I live to get a look at it just to satisfy some curiosity. It has some weird bling that does not make a boat perform but is worth a look to satisfy my interest. For about $5-$6k more you can get an ugly 07 RZ2 and for around $56 a nice Frost Pacific Blue 24VE from the local dealer. Since I am now in the ranks of many with time on my hands, I can do a lot of loooking.(Until my Jeep goes on empty a couple of times)

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                  I was at the Orange Co. show and looked the boat over well. They try to compare it to the RZ2, What a joke. The only comparison is the 22ft. The side of the boat is super thin and it weights in at 500 lb. less than the Tige (less glass). Malibu sells it but no place on the brochure or boat does it say Malibu, they even put it on a cheap trailer. The window has cheap plastic supports, the tower is ugly and would be a joke to fold down. The seats kept falling of and tipping over and we were on solid ground, the side vents were not metal they are plastic. Also the vinyl is light weight.
                  If this boat is still being manufactured a year from now I'll be supprised.
                  The Malibu sales person said they have been selling great but this was the same boat that was at the LA show and they were quick to heavily discount the price.
                  I guess if you own a Delorean you might want one then you could have the car and boat that sank.

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                    Originally posted by Xplosion View Post
                    I was at the Orange Co. show and looked the boat over well. They try to compare it to the RZ2, What a joke. The only comparison is the 22ft. The side of the boat is super thin and it weights in at 500 lb. less than the Tige (less glass). Malibu sells it but no place on the brochure or boat does it say Malibu, they even put it on a cheap trailer. The window has cheap plastic supports, the tower is ugly and would be a joke to fold down. The seats kept falling of and tipping over and we were on solid ground, the side vents were not metal they are plastic. Also the vinyl is light weight.
                    If this boat is still being manufactured a year from now I'll be supprised.
                    The Malibu sales person said they have been selling great but this was the same boat that was at the LA show and they were quick to heavily discount the price.
                    I guess if you own a Delorean you might want one then you could have the car and boat that sank.
                    Thats the reason its a "budget boat"
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                      Originally posted by Xplosion View Post
                      I was at the Orange Co. show and looked the boat over well. They try to compare it to the RZ2, What a joke. The only comparison is the 22ft. The side of the boat is super thin and it weights in at 500 lb. less than the Tige (less glass). Malibu sells it but no place on the brochure or boat does it say Malibu, they even put it on a cheap trailer. The window has cheap plastic supports, the tower is ugly and would be a joke to fold down. The seats kept falling of and tipping over and we were on solid ground, the side vents were not metal they are plastic. Also the vinyl is light weight.
                      If this boat is still being manufactured a year from now I'll be supprised.
                      The Malibu sales person said they have been selling great but this was the same boat that was at the LA show and they were quick to heavily discount the price.
                      I guess if you own a Delorean you might want one then you could have the car and boat that sank.
                      Might be better off with a Bayliner.
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                        One of the things that strikes me as weird is the hull design. With the picklefork front ends the hulls remind me of hulls you used to see on deck boats and boats from the past that were called tri-hulls or cathedral hulls. Since I have not seen an RZ2 or RZ4 when on plane is just the center hull in contact with the water at 20+ mph. I ask because we used to have a cathedral hull SeaRay and it was great for space and stability but in rough water the outer edges of the hull pounded you to death.

                        I am sure that isn't the case in the new designs but in rough water I wonder if the outer edges of the hull are in the water. It is more pronounced in this boat than in Tige's.

                        We don't see pickle forks where we typically boat so I am just interested and not criticizing. I am sure the designs are a far cry above what I had in the Sea Ray

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                          Originally posted by Xplosion View Post
                          If this boat is still being manufactured a year from now I'll be supprised.
                          I will start baking your cake to go with your surprise.

                          BTW - it wasn't too long ago that Tige had light weight vinyl, cheap plastic, ugly towers that don't fold down properly and Tige is still around.
                          Last edited by turbonine; 04-09-2009, 06:20 PM.

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                            For the question about the front of the picklefork. Tige designed its front based on style and to give more room. It has no functional advantage when it comes to the wake since both the RZ and the Ve share pretty much the same running surface. That is why they use the Ve at the Pro Am and the Pro Team riders have them. If you put enough weight like they run in an RZ then the pickle fork starts hitting the water and messes up the wake since it was no designed to run low, like for instance an x star or these axis boats.
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                              Sorry to bring up an old post, but its funny the predictions people make and what actually happens. Except the axis is not really a budget boat anymore.

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                                Originally posted by kx250frider617 View Post
                                Sorry to bring up an old post, but its funny the predictions people make and what actually happens. Except the axis is not really a budget boat anymore.
                                It sort of is still. Go price yourself a fully loaded RZ4 and then a loaded up Axis A24 and you will still find the A24 to be quite a bit easier on the budget. They are both still very expensive, so it is hard to see it as a budget boat, but I bet an Axis quote will be 20% less than the RZ4 quote. And that isn't comparing it to the Nautique or ASR...let's not go that road again.
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