Spray pockets

[tigesinaus]

does the spary pocket just run for a meter or so, or is it a continuous chine all the way up the hull?

[tigesinaus]

and sorry for all the questions, but what is the idea of them?

[zad0030]

and sorry for all the questions, but what is the idea of them?

Made a better slalom wake

[tigesinaus]

so it softens or makes the wake smaller.. i can understand now why you wouldnt want that for boarding.

[rogersbm82]

not making the wake smaller so to say. Just causes it to wash out so its not rampy and lippy.

[formandfunction]

soo... all this talk about spray pockets on pre 03. v drives is making me very nervous about buying a 2000 21v this weekend.... is it really a problem with the wake? b/c the whole reason why i'm buying a new boat is for wakeboarding...

It wasn't a big enough deal to keep me from buying my boat.For most people its not a big deal and in some respect I think the spray pockets actually make the wake larger by allowing more of the hull to rest under the waterline.I could be wrong,It's hard to tell driving around the lake and not having a 24v for reference.

My goal is to have the best wake possible.Was in nessecary?Probably not but It does help to clean the very top of the wake a bit.

[Surfdad]

I'm interested in it to remove the curl at the back of the pocket while surfing. There is a general misconception that having that curl is an indication that the wake is perfect, but the START of that curl is the end of the effective pocket length. I'm of the opinion that the spray pockets negatively affect pocket length for surfing.

My buddy Ed Sullivan did some testing with foam inserts in his spray pockets and could never get them to last long enough to get a true reading at surf speeds. Were you able to keep the foam/tape in the spray pockets long enough to assess if it would impact a surf wake? I'm hesitant to glass over or even make this mod, without being SURE that it works 100%.

Thanks for posting this up.

[formandfunction]

The way to keep them in is to strip the wax residue off before you start testing so the water doesn't conflict with the tape.

About glassing the fillers I didn't consider it a option because I don't feel you can blend old and new glass/resin together without it being two different pieces cured seperate of each other.Not saying it can't be done just something you would want a true pro to do.
If my boat had some fade or scratches it might make a good winter project but my boat is almost flawless and screwing stainless to the side of the boat involved all of about two hours and six holes.

You are correct about the wash being the begining of the end.Seemed to be like deflecting the wash of the top even if just a few inches slowed the degridation of the wake.

I will make it a point to keep track of the weight dist. and speed this weekend so you can judge for yourself the difference.Shouldn't be too hard seeing you have the same boat.

[FIC]

As I understand it that which you are working on is not spray pockets but where the tail was narrowed for a narrower wake at slalom speed, actual pockets at the mid point of the boat were in the 90 era of tiges to control the spray of water so your slalom skiier could see his next buoy, so I believe the terminolgy is off on the area you are working on. The ideal hull for slalom skiing was actually to get as close to the shape of a cannue , thus the reason behind the narrow tail. When tige started they set out to be the ultimate slalom boat and won that honor for a couple of years .

[talltigeguy]

How much weight can you add the boat before the spray pockets become an issue with washing out and rolling over? It was said before that this only happens when you start to add a lot of ballast weight.

I had a 2002 and never had a problem with the wakeboarding wake. If you add more than 1500 pounds the wake gets just plain huge. The transom of the boat sinks lower because it is effectively about a foot narrower than the mid point. With more than 1500 pounds, the wake will have a cosemtically displeasing curl to it. It is so small that I really don't think you could feel it when you hit it, but nonetheless people complain incessantly about it.

Here is a pic of the curl on my 2002. It begins at about 70 feet back when going 21+MPH. Not the best pic, but I hope it helps. THis was with a lot of weight in the boat, I don't remember how much. Probably around 2K pounds.

soo... all this talk about spray pockets on pre 03. v drives is making me very nervous about buying a 2000 21v this weekend.... is it really a problem with the wake? b/c the whole reason why i'm buying a new boat is for wakeboarding...

I would still buy another boat like that in a heartbeat.

As I understand it that which you are working on is not spray pockets but where the tail was narrowed for a narrower wake at slalom speed, actual pockets at the mid point of the boat were in the 90 era of tiges to control the spray of water so your slalom skiier could see his next buoy, so I believe the terminolgy is off on the area you are working on. The ideal hull for slalom skiing was actually to get as close to the shape of a cannue , thus the reason behind the narrow tail. When tige started they set out to be the ultimate slalom boat and won that honor for a couple of years .

Every thread I have ever seen on the issue thinks that the last 4 feet or so of the transom that is cut out is the 'spray pocket'. Don't get us all confused!!!!!!

[mtnsmith]

This is true about the "spray pockets" being more in the middle of the length of the boat, they were designed to let the spray settle down and back instead of further out so the visibility was better. These chine pockets were as FIC stated, to narrow the stern when the boat was traveling faster to get a narrower tail end footprint for a narrower wake. I had a friend with an old glastron outboard that had a similar design to have a narrower and firmer wake. The steel filler boxes are neat looking though.

[dogbert]

Nicely stated, tall. I bet it didn't have a pansy pylon either

[formandfunction]

Epic failure unless your trying to ruin the wake.I deveated to far from my original testing and ended up washing the top off the wake.I will not bother with this anymore unless my boat takes on major damage and requires refinish.If that be the case I would consider filling them in but I think a little more weight in the bow helps more than anything.1200 in the front 1000 in the back.Thats what my boat likes.

[formandfunction]

[Fit to be Tige]

Wow. And I was looking forward to a happy ending of your ingenuity. Sorry it didn't turn out the way you had planned.