Who is surfing a Z4?

[da.bell]

You can fit an enzo sac in both sides for sure and an i9ntrgrated bow fat sac in the bow. That is 1450 in one side of the lockers and 650 in the front.

I think that is bentone is running.

[da.bell]

here is bentone's darkside wake.

http://www.tigeowners.com/forum/showthread.php?t=4802

[xpjim1]

Is this only the Z4 because the R decal fell off because the boat was listing so well?

[da.bell]

I would think that those bags would fit into both the RZ4 and 24Ve.

[Surfdad]

Is this with just the Enzo sack? It's closer, just need to knock the lip off. When a rider fades back to pump in for an aerial, their leg gets hung up in that curl...I know folks love that curl - but it really diminishes the useful length of the pocket.

Does anyone have Bentone's ballasting spec's?

[da.bell]

Further in the thread he states that it is full optional ballast + an enzo sac.

[da.bell]

Specs of what he was running.

http://www.tigeowners.com/forum/show...2&postcount=23

[Big Wave]

That's definately a nice wake, but you're running 3,350 of water and people ballast? And giving up floor space? I am so spoiled. I had about 1,100-1,300 of ballast, all hidden.

Although, I'd bet that you could lose some of the ballast by not filling 700 on both sides. That might trim it down to close to a ton. Have you ridden it without filling both rear lockers?

This was the first time we ran with both sides full and it made the wake less lippy and added punch. We do have the intigraded bow sac and My plan is to put a custom sac on the dark side to get rid of the floor sac. I just need to get the dimensions next time I am up at the lake. The whole fam rides goofy, which is convienent.

[Surfdad]

xpjim1, my bad - the r on my keyboard with the shift key depressed, at the office was giving me trouble!!! Go figure.

I know that a few hundred pounds of lead on the opposite side - down low, can usually know the lip off. I'll have to try that tomorrow.

Thanks everyone for pictures and input! Hopefully I'll get some pictures and a decent wake.

[rensink]

Would it be better to fill the port side on a stock 900lbs and leave the front port one empty but fill the rest then throw like 200lbs in the front or back? would filling the port back help more then anything is what I'm asking.

[Surfdad]

One of the best wakes I have ever ridden was a 24V - I think it was an '05. No factory ballast, just something like 15 people and a cooler

The Lip is prevalent on virtually all boat. If you've ever been behind an Enzo, it is so pronounced on regular rotation boats that it can effectively cut the height in half. An Enzo needs about 200 pounds of lead in the opposite corner and you can't run it slower than 12 mph...the 'blade helps that hull some, but you can't switch sides it's basically a one side boat with the 'blade.

On most boats that I have tried to weight...you can knock the lip off by placing smaller amounts of high density weight, like lead, down low. I'm sure it's a leverage thing...maybe we have some physicists here?

In general, placing all the weight in the back tends to create short, tall wakes. That is the place you want to start, though. Placing weight in the bow will lengthen a short wake, at the cost, normally, of some height. A small amount of lead, again normally, down low and in the opposite corner of the wake being surfed will knock the lip off.

I prefer to run the least amount of ballast I can, while developing a decent wake.

I'd be interested in hearing "actual" results from folks.

[ragboy]

seems like everyone has pics of the goofy side, including me. The curl is non existent or much smaller on the REG side. Where is mallek? He has pics of his 24ve sacked out on the REG side.

[Carter13]

I bet when Big Wave is running full ballast you can hear the sucking sound of
$4.00 a gallon of gas overpowering the stereo .

[Big Wave]

I bet when Big Wave is running full ballast you can hear the sucking sound of
$4.00 a gallon of gas overpowering the stereo 0.

Could be worse, at least the boat doesn't have a small gas tank. We go through about 20-30 gal a day and that is with alot of riding.

[dogbert]

I bet when Big Wave is running full ballast you can hear the sucking sound of
$4.00 a gallon of gas overpowering the stereo .

It's still less than wakeboarding. Your RPMs are about 1/3 less.