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[Gudge]

I currently own a MC. I'm going to buy a new boat though. I have looked at everything. I have hung around the Malibu boat owners site, and was very excited about the Tige owners site when it started last week. I have not yet made my final decision. I will buy either the new Wakesetter LSV or the new Tige 24V. I think both boats are incredible from what I have seen and or ridden behind.

I think that Ballast is an important part of a big wake. I also look at boats that don't have Taps, or the wedge a little differently. I guess I respect companies who try something new that works. One of the roots to this thread talks about whos dragging what. Who cares? If your dragging a wedge or the Taps system-Great! We all know both systems work. Which is better???? Every company can't have a modified wedge or taps system! Whats else can someone come up with??? I havent seen any other company introduce something that wasnt related to ballast. Afterall pickle forks dont ultimately adjust a wake.

As for aneal00-I've talked to him in the past and have read many of his posts on the other site. I never read a slam from him on this thread. I also took his first posts as someone who could be a potential buyer. It wasnt until he was asked that his relationship with Malibu came up.

I think some people here need to lighten up. You arent here to justify your purchase. Your here to help a company make improvements so that when you buy your next Tige it will be better than ever. If you like Tiges who cares what anyone else thinks about them- your the one who has to pay for it. This whole thread wasnt about who built a better boat, it was about the marketing stradegy.

Tige has had a crappy reputation for years. I blame the marketing stradegy, not the product.

[Banks]

If it has a crappy reputation it's not in all areas, Tige' just came to SC and the only rep it has is that of being a new boat on the market. The only people in the are I have heard talk crap have done so because they have said if its not a mastercraft or nautique it sucks, based on no factual information, and will say they have never riddin behind one either. And, to say it has a crappy reputation is an insult. Apparently thats not the case everywhere, as you imply, for if that were the case there would not be as many Tige' owners as there are.

[Gudge]

I see many Tige's in the Northwest and realize its a newer company compared to the bigger 3. My comment about a crappy reputation is not based on the product like I SAID. Its based on flunky marketing personell.

[Ruune]

I dont necessarily think they're bad marketers... I just think that theres room for improvement in specific areas of how they describe their innovations.

As for the quality of the product... I look at manufacturing techniques, materials, technology, design, etc. before anything else. Let me just say that there are no Tigé dealers in San Antonio. There are MC, CC, Centurion, malibu, etc. but no Tigé. It is because I believe in their product, that I'm going to the Ski Dock in North Austin. It also helps that everyone that I've talked to up there are awesome. My hat's off to Damon and Roland up there, who have been both patient and helpful whenever I've got a question.

[Domsz06]

Grudge,

Aneal wasn't aruging about the fact of good or bad dragging, but why tige was saying in the ad that they don't drag anything, where he feels they do.

This whole post right now is been misinturpeted, because of what Banks said that they are not known. People in the world form most if not all of their opinions on what they hear. Most of the times they don't even bother to look up any facts, or anything. Rumors spread like wildfire. I'm sure it's something like the restaurant business(I know this well, sinc it's my everyday life right now) If you have one bad experience at a restaurant you will tell ten people, and then they will tell ten people. Needless to say, anyone can do the simple math, and realize that it getts big really fast. Imagine if I told aneall that tige's suck. Well then he's gonna tell ten, and those ten are gonna tell ten, so just after once we are already at 100 people, then we go to 1000, and so on. What I believe is that the ad is bad, well, ok not great. Andrew addressed the point of the ad, and made a very bold proposition saying he will pay for anyone to stay the night in Abline to come and see the plant. That is AWESOME!! I'd like to take him up on that offer, so I can see it.

Then we all come back and jump everyone. Now, I know people have said some things, but I agree, we also have a point. Everyone makes fun of tige's, based on what I have said earlier. Everyone needs to look at in a open perspective. Now i"m not trying to say I like everything that was said, or that I didn't jump down aneall's throat. I did. I think on the arguing we just need to drop it and enjoy this site. Lets use it for what the creators intended it. I know I have referred people to this site to inquire about tige's Lets show them we are proud of what we have, and welcome to this site.

I'm done with this post. Everyone have fun, and keep on typing.

Dom

[Ruune]

invite you to come and visit our manufacturing facility in Abilene, Texas.

Andrew... I spoke with Darren Landry over email last fall, and he also extended an invite to come tour the facility. I think that I'll take you up on that offer, once we've placed our order this spring. It'll be interesting to see my actual boat during the manufacturing process!

[edwin]

My only question...after 8 pages of this, why can't we all just get along with one another?

[brd4fun]

After reading most of this post. I now have a question.
Would my swim platform be considered drag hardware? And why would a Malibu rep question the marketing strategy or direction of Tige or any other boat manufacturer?

My 2 cents.

There are different boat manufacturers because people have different needs and wants (just like car's, motorcycle's and so on).
When making my decision my wife and I both went out on all the wakeboarding boats avaliable. I wanted a HUGE wake she wanted a smaller wake, lots of storage and a big sundeck. The Tige with ballast and taps was the perfect boat for us. We have been very blessed and are able to buy any boat we wanted, the boat that suited us best was the Tige.

I am not saying all the other boats suck, I am saying in my opinion Tige is the best boat for my family.

So in closing, never make a decision based on what someone else says about a boat or anything else. Take the time and ride, drive and board behing everything.

Oh one more thing. How is that 180 coming?

[Cheeky]

Couldn't resist, could ya BRD.....

[OldSkier]

I had not planned on rejoining this thread. However, when it was learned that "aneal000" is in fact a Malibu Driver Rep, I feel compelled again to comment.

1/ First, to our Tige Web Hosts: PLEASE, be aware, that aneal000 and Malibu3 do NOT speak for Malibu boat owners in general. I own a Malibu. He certainly does NOT speak for me.... and I suspect he does NOT speak for most Malibu owners. I also suspect he does NOT speak for Malibu as a company either. I am truly embarassed for what he has said and done on your website. We're your guests. We should not abuse that . You've got a great website. Thanks for letting us be part of it.

2/ To aneal000: I had thought from your questions and reponses that you were simply a young kid, over zealous about yours, or your Dad's Malibu. Now we find out you are a Malibu Driver Rep. The key word here is "REP" = Representative! In spite of all your statements that you're not "bashing", and have just joined the Tige site for the love of the sport....that is total rubbish. All the talk of marketing direction and "drag hardware" etc etc etc... was simply a way to try and embarass Tige. The "malibuboatowners" website was "down" the past weekend. When it came back up, you in so many words, announced that you missed the malibu site, and were bragging about the way you had joined the Tige site and were stirring up the pot. Shame.

3/ To Malibu "company" folks (in case you're reading this.) I believe your "Driver Rep" has grossly overstepped the bounds of his responsibilities. Worse, is that in his childish way, he has deviated from Malibu's "high road" in the way you market and advertise. In spite of his "love of the sport", he has tried to shroud his disparaging comments over and over again, but in reality it's just Tige bashing. If I was Malibu, I would seriously question his ability to "represent" the company in the future.

We've all seen courtroom dramas. Sometimes one of the lawyers yells "I object" when something is said out-of-line. Sometimes the judge exclaims "sustained", followed by "please strike those last comments from the record". My wish list is that all aneal000's and malibu3's questions and answers could be "stricken from the record". Tige has done a great service to their owners and other water enthusiasts. It's a shame what aneal and malibu3 have done the past week to disrupt your new website. Thanks, and keep up the good work.

Lastly, to aneal000 (and Malibu3). If you had 1 ounce of personal and business decency left in you, you'd post 1 last comment on the thread. Simply "I apologize". NOT an apology with more explanation or justification or more double talk, just an apology. Period. But I think that's hoping for too much.

[Ruune]

dude let it go... theres been too much drama already.

[Cheeky]

To quote one of the great Philosiphers (sp?) of our generation:

"Where is the love?"

[aneal000]

old school, I had also planned to stay out of this until you personally attacted me. I suggest you reread this entire post and truly think about what I have said and what you have said. Your right some of these posts have been uncalled for, I would just question which ones.

If you want to talk about details and having your facts correct, as so many have stated on this board then maybe you should dig a little deeper into my background before speaking so openly. If you did you would find that I am in no way associated with Malibu other that I own the title to one. I do not collect a paycheck from the company, I do not report to anyone at Malibu or any of Malibu's dealers, I do not work for Malibu, I do not provide them any type of labor in exchange for goods, etc, etc... What I do is buy a boat every year from our local dealer. He gives me a good deal on it in return for helping him out at boat shows and local tournaments. It is easier to call myself a promotional driver because that is a term that people understand in our industry, but to clarify, for everyone's sake I have no vested interest in Malibu as a company. I have a friendship with a dealer that happens to sell them. I will agree with you in the statement that I do not speak for Malibu, it's associates, or owners. I never claimed, nor would expect anyone to draw those conclusions from any of my conversations. My words are my own and they were never intended to be anyone elses.

Even with that clarified I don't feel that the questions I posed were in any way degrading to Tige, I don't feel obgliated to apologize for asking a question. If it is a question that you feel might be tough to answer then maybe you should consider why the question would even come up. Andrew from Tige had no problems giving a response to it, all be it a little vauge in his response to the marketing portion of my question, however he did as I would expect and I applaud him for taking the initative and posting publicly about his company on any internet board. Thank you Andrew for your response. I would love to visit the Tige factory, I will consider taking you up on the offer, that is if you are not afraid I might question something you or your company is doing.

I do spend most of my time on Malibu Boat Owners, knowing the type of people that frequent that site I honestly believe anyone would be welcome to come on that site and question anything Malibu as a company was doing. I would, along with other members of the site have no issues responding to such questions. People use the site daily to help aid in their buying decision, the site is not just made up of owners. In fact I know quite a few people that visit the site on a regular basis that are Nautique owners, Mastercraft owners, and Tige owners. No one cares. If they want to ask a challenging question so be it. They will typically get many answers based on fact, not opinion like we have frequently seen here on this thread.

I think this site has the potential to be a great site. It is well on it's way. I have been posting on various other threads on this site and have seen what I would expect, a group of good people exchanging good information. But if the site would rather I not be here please feel free to ask me to leave.
Best Regards,
Tony

[BC06]

one more time for the slow ones:

a) on THIS site, has a malibu/CC/MC, criticizing Tige: insecure

b) on THIS site, doesn't own a boat, criticizing Tige: poser


both types: I would rather you go blurt your propaganda on another site, nobody here cares; we've already made our decision (note the address here). The other sheep are waiting for you at wakeworld.com. Have a nice day.

[BC06]

one more thing, aneal, (if you insist on continuing to try to save us from ourselves), how about posting some of those cool malibu pics with the transoms torn out...tige hasn't developed the technology to do that yet.