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[malibu3]

Your quote "There is drag here, but the effect is totally different from where this began. This began using drag as something to pull down, which is not the case here. The Taps plate alter the running attitude and lifts the rear of the boat at lower speefds, much like flaps..."
Proves my answer. The taps makes a better slalom wake and there is no doubt about that by creating lift on the rear of the hull. But in order to do that it has to drag in the water, it is drag hardware not to make a bigger wake but to make a smaller one. Thanks for proving my theory!

Good luck with your Tige, I hope you are getting a brand new one, Don't know how long that wood will last in your old one!

Malibu3

[Jeff]

malibu3

In your boat if you do in fact own a Malibu, you already have hook built into the hull of your boat hence the entire reason for the wedge; this system allows Tigé owners the ability to adjust from hook to rocker because there is no hook built into a Tigé. So if this is the case is your boat dragging the transom portion of your hull at all times?

With this being said if you ever wanted to take a spin in a Tige to properly understand, I would be glad to take you out for a spin.

Jeff

[Ruune]

well if you want to get technical, flaps are indeed "drag hardware" in that the are designed to increase the drag- air passes above and below them to increase the drag coefficient of the wing, and thus slow the plane down for a shorter approach. Additionally, flaps increase the surface area of the wing which reduces the stall speed (minimum speed the plane can remain in the air).

That said, TAPS is not like airplane flaps. It would be more closely related to aileron or an elevator. These are called "control surfaces," and divert oncoming air to provide yaw (rudder), roll(aileron), and pitch (elevator)... not increase the drag of the plane.

[malibu3]

Thanks for the offer. I have been out in a Tige, as well as many other boats with revolutionary trim tabs! Not all Malibu's have hooks in their Hull design, the non diamond hulls do not have the hook. But guess what in the diamond hull there is hook but that hook is part of the hull, not a bolted on foreign object on the back. The hull never changes, the TAPS plate is adjusted to drag more in the water to provide the lift. It is a good design and I applaud that, but lets call a spade a spade.

Malibu3

Oh yes I do have a Malibu and am hoping to get another one at this years boat show!

Kinda Like that sticker : TIGE=GOT WOOD?

[Cheeky]

That TAPs plate does not pull it down, then hull design sits it deeper. This has been explained a half dozen time here... The TAPs plate puts hook back into the hull to lift it up, not the opposite...

Sometimes I think I would do better explaining this to my 5 year old....

You had to go with wood huh, must be desperate......

[Ruune]

you mean like calling an elevator (remember... pitch!) a flap?

[malibu3]

Geez you guys are lost! HELLO?

I agree with what your saying but to provide the lift the TAP plate drags in the water.

Malibu3

[Cheeky]

Thanks you Ruune for the explanation, getting my terms mixed up some.

With this, I call this one quits...

[Cheeky]

This just in:
Tige is calling it's swim platform TAPS3 since it drags in the water....

[Banks]

just so you know taps is an option you don't have to get it.
point -
1. with out the trim tab the boat would be permanently in wakeboard position
2. with out the trim tab you would not be able to get the slalom wake.
3. no trim tab = wakeboard wake = no drag
4. the trim tab is a convience feature
it allows for different wakes as opposed to just a big one
it allows you to change the angle of the boat to save on fuel
it allows for a slalom wake so all can enjoy the boat

[Banks]

and the lift you are talking about is what makes the slalom wake

[Banks]

as for the wedge i think its a great concept its open so water flows over it and it pulls the boat down hence makes the wake bigger

when taps is down it pushes the boat up so you get a slalom wake
convex hull makes back of the boat naturaly go into the water so when taps is up it is being taken out of use hence wakeboard wake.

the only reason i don't like the wedge is cause there are shallow spots on my lake and to have something down under the boat so low could be potentialy dangerous

[aneal000]

I am staying out of your little bickering thing as I said I would, but I would like to point out, only for education purpose that the wedge actually sits higher than the rest of the underwater gear. Or the lowest point on a wedge equipped boat is not the wedge, but the prop and rudder. You would hit those before you hit the wedge.

[Banks]

sorry for the mistake on how low the wedge is - just notice - you know more about your boat as we about ours

[Cheeky]

Group Hug?