2003 24V or 2005 20V???

[Fit to be Tige]

I have a 1999 2100i that has been in brackish water for the past few years. We flush it with fresh/clean water after every single use and have zero problems with the boat. Just last week I hooked up the charged battery, turned the key and she ran like a champ. Of course, we always perform all the std. maintenance as well.

As far as the trailer goes, I would say that does take more of a beating. I just had the brakes and entire actuator replaced last fall (not that big of a deal). This year I will flush the trailer and brakes more regularly, but I am absolutely religous about flushing the motor and hosing the entire boat down after each use.

[ctcranor]

I can surf, w/o the rope, without ballast or people but it's in straight line barely hanging on the lip of that wave....not a lot of fun. I have a fat sac (I think about 90#) and with that I can start to move around a bit. The fat sac and 2 people on the sun pad and it becomes a lot of fun. I would think that 2 people and the fat sac is the beginning point of the 24V so I would bet there is a big difference.

The flip argument is, and some people have brought it up, is the gas consumption. I don't want to get into a big debate with people but in simple physics, I'm pushing around a lot less weight than a 24V. You can always add weight to a boat but can't remove it. In line with that is if you have any skiers, then the 20V would be far superior. I guess if anyone is too concerned about gas prices, they probably shouldn't be boating anyways-not a real "green" sport we're involved in.

The real question is how many people do you USUALLY have on board? I say usually as there are those 1 or 2 times a year I wish I had a 24V but those couple of times a year wouldn't justify a 24V for a family of 3.

Finally, let's face it, I'm not pulling any inverted aerobatics wakeboarding either so I don't need more than a 20V. Like I said, it does everything well but nothing perfect-it's a true "cross over" boat for a family that dabbles in all the sports.

[chpthril]

If towing is not a problem, storage is not a problem, price is clearly not a factor, then if the 24V is in good shape, then that would be my choice

[dogbert]

Actually, I think given the same # of people and the same engine, the 24v will be more fuel efficient since it floats better. Either way, tho, you're splitting hairs.

[talltigeguy]

Actually, I think given the same # of people and the same engine, the 24v will be more fuel efficient since it floats better. Either way, tho, you're splitting hairs.

Good point dogbert...it comes down to a matter of surface area and weight. I would tend to agree with dogbert, the 24V surface area is much more than the 20V, but the weight is not that much more since the principle heavy component is the engine and is the same in both.

[kko]

what power plant does the 03 24v have?

[ctcranor]

dogbert,

That is an interesting take and can't dispute it as I'm not an engineer, or that smart.....

I would think the 20V and 24V are the same hull design; the 24 simply being 4 feet longer and wider equal to its length. In short, they should have the same “floating” mass for their given size. This being equal, if in fact it is, gas efficiency would boil down to weight. The 24V coming in at 452 pounds heavier, with all other factors being equal, needs more throttle to push it’s mass compared to the 20V.

The same principle, I would think, would apply to speed to plane. The 20V out accelerates to plane the 24V. With the same power plant and same loads, this is a weight factor. If the 24V “floated” better than a 20V due to mass, it would be faster. Or at least that is how I would see it……and trust me, I am very often wrong!

[dogbert]

Yes, but it takes more mass to make the 24v ride lower in the water than a 20v. If you compared the bouyancy of both boats, the shorter one is easier to sink than the longer one.

It's the same concept with boards. Bigger boards float bigger folks. I'm not arguing the mass thing at all, just saying that you will plane faster on a bigger boat. Relatively speaking, the 24V isn't that much heavier than the 20V. 452 extra pounds is nothing for that powerplant.

[xpjim1]

I had a 20V and now have a 24V. The surf wake is better on the 24V but to be honest I am using much more ballast in the 24 V. I prefer the 24V

[talltigeguy]

Yes, but it takes more mass to make the 24v ride lower in the water than a 20v. If you compared the bouyancy of both boats, the shorter one is easier to sink than the longer one.

It's the same concept with boards. Bigger boards float bigger folks. I'm not arguing the mass thing at all, just saying that you will plane faster on a bigger boat. Relatively speaking, the 24V isn't that much heavier than the 20V. 452 extra pounds is nothing for that powerplant.

I guess to analyze it further, the 24 footer is 20% longer than the 20 footer, but only 10% heavier, therefore it might be easier to push through the water. When waterski mag did those reviews a while back, didn't they test both for fuel efficiency?

[dogbert]

When waterski mag did those reviews a while back, didn't they test both for fuel efficiency?

I'm too old to remember that far back.

[chpthril]

From boattest.com

20V w/340hp: @ 300RPM and 27MPH = 6GPH

24Ve w/340: @ 3000RPM and 24.8MPH = 6.3GPH

These boats have same drivetrain and prop, so I'm wondering if the extra length and beam of the 24' is enough added friction to cause a slower speed and slightly higher GPH? .3 is not a huge deal, just interesting to know!

[talbertini]

Thanks for all the info! I definitely am glad I am choosing to buy a Tigenow that I see what a great community of owners this website has brought together. Even after digesting all of your comments I am leaning towards the 20V just because of the size and my lack of a huge garage to store it in. As I said before it is the Tige US Open edition which apparently is only one of 2 made and it is LOADED to the kilt with only 85 hours. Also with the built in hard ballast of 1000 lbs I have a good feeling I will be able to get the surf wake up to a very acceptable size. Hopefully I will be test driving it in the next couple days before buying to see if I am correct.....
Here is a picture of it from the US Open
http://www.wakeworld.com/Galleries/G...240&ImageID=21

[dogbert]

So, is it the one with the red bimini or the blue bimini?

[ctcranor]

Nice and Congrats!! Either boat will be nice. With that 1000# I would think you'll be just fine for surfing. If I figure 2 people at maybe an average of 160# plus my 90# fat sac brick, I'm having a blast surfing with 410#! I'd love to see what another 590# would be like!