Help me decide...Z1 vs Mobius LSV vs Vride!

[chpthril]

Ruun is correct, the TAPS will not produce a bigger wake, it's the hull design and the lack of TAPS (when in the up position) that lets the boat settle into the water, displace water, and create a larger wake.

Get the factory ballast in the Z1, if the wake is not enough, pull out the factory hard tanks and toss in some Fly-Hi's.

[buffman]

Z1 all the way....but again may be a little bias and I did not test any of those other boats as I have been around many boats for years and I knew my first boat would be a Tige no matter what....

Here is my kick *** Z1:
http://www.tigeowners.com/forum/showthread.php?t=6431

EDIT: and yes the Z1 has both the digial and analog speedo and the Tige speedset cruise is an option which is also digital and CRAZY easy to use.

[Ruune]

Ruun is correct, the TAPS will not produce a bigger wake, it's the hull design and the lack of TAPS (when in the up position) that lets the boat settle into the water, displace water, and create a larger wake.

Get the factory ballast in the Z1, if the wake is not enough, pull out the factory hard tanks and toss in some Fly-Hi's.

Amen, brother.

[rushin]

Will they be in business for years like malibu and moomba?

Are you freaking kidding me?

Tigé already has!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Jason B]

You list the cruise being plain as a negative? It was designed that way to be easy to use.

I looked at 3 Vrides before I bought my boat because I had heard Malibu's reputation for high quality. I knew nothing of thier entire line (VTX,VLX, or LSV) and I walked out of the dealership thinking "no chance." Compare the seams and the vinyl quality to a Moomba and it is no beter IMO. I was totally turned off to Malibu. I decided to buy used because the quality of a 5 yr old boat seemed on par with the Vride. Add to that you have to GET ON THE SWIM DECK and reach through the platform to set the wedge!????!!! No thanks. (I would do the POWER wedge for sure if you go w/ Malibu!) The LED lights you listed as a positive are very simple to install for under 100$.
Compare closely the interior of the Vride and the Tige, you will see what I mean. The VLX,VTX are a different story--those are topnotch for sure!!
Either of the boats listed will make you a happy boater. If you want my opinion, people are crazy to pay for the Malibu name for the Vride when they certainly aren't getting "Malibu quality." Kinda like buying a 10 year old C230 and struting around because you own a "Benz."

[2thdoc01]

The cruise i thought was a Pro...no look to adjust it.

I can really get this thing at a nice price....its loaded, and it will come in at the same price as a loaded Moomba.....it has 5 hours on it.

[2thdoc01]

How does the tower of power sound???

BTW, it has the following on it:

GM Vortec 320 HP Standard
$43,209

Freight
$1,381

Prep
$840

GM Vortec 340 HP Upgrade
$896

Prop Guard Wheel Kit
$313

Spare Tire (Chrome Wheel)
$299

Spare Tire Mount
$104

Bimini Top
$821

EIDB System
$440

Custom Hull Color
$746

iPod Interface
$231

Tower of Power Sound System
$4,440

Transom Display Remote
$299

e Series Anodized Tower
$4,030

Tige Speed Set Cruise Control
$709

Vision Air Seat
$373

Fresh Water Strainer
$291

Shipping Cover
$224

Black/Stainless Rubrail
$410

Stainless Appearance Package
$373

Color Fiberglass Platform
$485

Adjustable Seat Base
$224

Center Bow Cushion
$149

Sirius Radio
$560

Two Color Split Main Panel
$1,119

Billet Mirror
$343

Mooring Cover
$746




Custom Trailer
$6,358

[turbonine]

I woudl say it would come down to the VRide and Z1. If it were for the same price I think I would go with the Z1. The hull is a little dated on the VRide, but not by terms of wake producing abilities, more so on the beam. Two inches is a big difference when it comes to beam, and the difference here is six inches.

If it were a VTX...VTX all day long.

[switchme]

I wouldn't worry about buying the photo shoot boat. I bought a 2004 that was the boat in all the brochures. The boat was upgraded from the basics and I got a good price. I have had no major & one or two minor problems but nothing that has keep me off the water for any legnth of time.

[Razzman]

Ok let me jump in here as a new Moomba owner. This is my take on the Moomba LSV so far and no way meant to be a rant, just offering my opinion to a question. This could be a long one!

So let's clarify something, the build quality of the Moomba is exactly the same as the Supra. Both lines are built side by side in the Tennessee plant to the exact same standards as dictated by Skiers Choice and Supras are recognized as a very well built boat. Don't confuse the appearance or feel of the components with the quailty of the boat! Moomba uses top line driveline components from Indmar, Walter & OJ. Controls are Teleflex for the wakeplate and steering with rack & pinion. Interior components from G&T vinyl, Syntec stain resistent carpet, Beede gauges, Kenwood Audio, Fat Sac ballast systems. All are name brands and of high quality. Just because things like the vinyl doesn't feel "leather like" or plush doesn't make it less quailty. The stitching uses the new Gore Tenara thread which withstood three years in the Arizona sun without degrading!

Where they cut corners is in places like less fancy dashes, no cool billet or polished aluminum pieces, painted windshield frames, simple interior patterns, less expensive (yet quality) vinyls, limited color options, no ballast gauges, non-swivel seats, no logo imprinted seat bottoms or fancy stiching and such, no storage nets, no step pads, etc, etc. in other words no bling or appearance items per se.

What you do get is a great functioning boat with a great wake hull and the potential for a fantastic wake when the ballast is full yet a flat ski wake at 28 when you adjust the plate. Btw the ballast is 1200 lbs, 400 in each rear locker and 400 midship in the ski locker. You get a limited lifetime hull warrenty (unlimimited on the lower hull), fours years drivetrain and a year everywhere else. Simple Cruise, depth gauges, flipup bolster, stainless cup holders, pop-up cleats, a boat cover, a fantastic Boatmate trailer are some of the standards. The standard Indmar Assualt 325 is a great motor and from what i understand has good fuel economy

I spent a lot of time crawling around the all the boats i looked at. I can tell you the Moomba and Supra's are built exactly alike. I crawled into the underdash storage and looked behind things like the side coamings and stuck my head into V-drive compartments and under seats, identical. Btw Tigé builds exactly the same way (with some exceptions) as far as i can tell from doing the same on the 22ve. The Moomba is all composite materials as well.

For '08 they have done some nice things like Deutsch connectors on the harness and cableless (wire) throttle assembly. Moius LSV weighs 3300 lbs and feels solid to me. I didn't notice any undo vibrations in mine when we test drove it off and on for almost two hours. I didn't notice any throttle variance either, in fact mine stayed put where set when i tool my hand off the throttle. I did notice handling in a V-drive i've never experienced before, most V-drives feel heavier and somewhat sluggish to an extent. The Moomba handles like a Direct Drive boat and i'm not kidding. I've driven late model Sanger's, Tigé's and Malibu V-drives over the last couple years and non can match the Moomba for handling responce imo. The LSV handles the chop well from my limited time driving it, the Tigés probably will take chop a bit better as they are heavier and a little wider. Can't speak for the Z1 as i've never ridden in one.

Does this sound biased? Hell yes it does because i just bought one after looking at new boats for a year. I wanted a 22ve as i really like Tigé but i could not justify Tigé's rising prices and that's where the Moomba outshines all the rest, because as you don't have all the bling you pay a lot less. It's not lesser quality, just less bling for less money and you get a lot for your money. When i shop for something i research the crap out of it before hand. We were going after a late model used and this boat, for the money with what you get changed my mind.

I looked at the Z1 and didn't like it (no offense to Z1 owners ), while the main cabins are the same size at 55 square feet, the Z1 looks and feels smaller and we didn't like the angular styling. The Mobius LSV has a 97" beam, just slightly less than the Z1.

So there you go 2thdoc01, that's my opinion and assesment so far. We're taking it out Saturday for the day so i'll have a much better opinion i'm sure after that. Which ever way you go you really can't lose as they are all good boats it's just which ever one is right for you regardless of anybody else's opinion.

Ok Moomba speech over with from the token Moomba guy, back to regular programming.

[DieselPWR]

How does the tower of power sound???

BTW, it has the following on it:

GM Vortec 320 HP Standard
$43,209

Freight
$1,381

Prep
$840

GM Vortec 340 HP Upgrade
$896

Prop Guard Wheel Kit
$313

Spare Tire (Chrome Wheel)
$299

Spare Tire Mount
$104

Bimini Top
$821

EIDB System
$440

Custom Hull Color
$746

iPod Interface
$231

Tower of Power Sound System
$4,440

Transom Display Remote
$299

e Series Anodized Tower
$4,030

Tige Speed Set Cruise Control
$709

Vision Air Seat
$373

Fresh Water Strainer
$291

Shipping Cover
$224

Black/Stainless Rubrail
$410

Stainless Appearance Package
$373

Color Fiberglass Platform
$485

Adjustable Seat Base
$224

Center Bow Cushion
$149

Sirius Radio
$560

Two Color Split Main Panel
$1,119

Billet Mirror
$343

Mooring Cover
$746




Custom Trailer
$6,358

Get the wetsounds setup, sounds mean.

[2thdoc01]

All 3 are priced verrrrry close....which one gets the nod?

Vride has no options hardly at all...moomba and tige are loaded...although Tige has no ballast, and Moomba has no PPass.

[Original Wing Nut]

[QUOTE=2thdoc01;162021]How does the tower of power sound???

Tower of power is overpriced. I got factory tower of power on my Tigé, I have been wanting to upgrade ever since. I have had several different quotes and all have been less for a considerably better system. Theses quotes have been complete install, completely hands off for me. I don't know stereo stuff and just want a great system. I love my Tigé and the sound is okay I just wish I had done it differently, and I will on my next Tigé. I just cruised through all previous post, but has anybody mentioned resale. My brother just bought an 05 XLV last fall and picked it up for way less than what I saw 05 Tigé 24v's going for. I have not been on the lake in his boat so can't add much in that respect. I am just rambling on about my observations. Go with what works for you.

[2thdoc01]

Seems like i could spend 4k on a nicer system!

[da.bell]

How much are they asking for the boat as is?