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Originally posted by Timmy! View PostI'm sure for the price difference between a CC and a Tige you could buy an extended warranty in there....
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I agree with you that the first couple of years you will have warranty issues but how are much are you really paying for it? I bought a loaded Chevy truck in 2004 with a 36k mile warranty on it for $38k. That same truck w/ a 100k mile warranty costs the same or less.
If its built well you should not have to worry about it, in my mind. Also, with a warranty or any other insurance like instrument, they model those so that the costs of repairs are factored in over every boat. It doesn't cost as much as you think. Additionally, they do not pay the same rates for shop labor and for repair parts that we do."Injuries heal, but puss you take to the grave."
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36k bumper to bumper.100k powertrain only and the odds of you doing everything required for you to get that warranty repair coverd= slim to none i spent 13yrs in auto repair at dealer level it dont happen very often. if you do everything required to keep that warranty intact the odds that you will have a problem in the first 100k is very slim. its the odds game 99.99% of people do not do the required service to keep warranty good the other .01% the dealer makes enough money off the maintanence required to keep the warranty in tact to repair any problem they have 3 times over. hey wait a minute this isj/k i didnt come here to talk about trucks.
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Originally posted by kko View Post36k bumper to bumper.100k powertrain only and the odds of you doing everything required for you to get that warranty repair coverd= slim to none i spent 13yrs in auto repair at dealer level it dont happen very often. if you do everything required to keep that warranty intact the odds that you will have a problem in the first 100k is very slim. its the odds game 99.99% of people do not do the required service to keep warranty good the other .01% the dealer makes enough money off the maintanence required to keep the warranty in tact to repair any problem they have 3 times over. hey wait a minute this isj/k i didnt come here to talk about trucks.
All I am saying is why cut off a warranty just because it has been sold. It doesn't make sense. They have made the commitment already. The only logical answer is that Tige wants to limit their potential liability for repair cost. I get that. I am sensing from you that you would rather buy a boat w/ out a warranty because it adds cost to the boat. If that is true, how much less would Tige sell you that boat without a warranty? Answer: they would sell it to you at the same price.
My friend KKO, we are different. You buy and hold and I buy and sell. Therefore, we value diffrent items in terms of importance. You have had your boat forever and probably take great care of it. At the same time the cost of a new boat has probably risen since your purchase. And when you buy a new or newer boat for 40 or 60 thousand, most people want the assurance that if the guages, for example go out, that Tige will replace them.
Have a great night"Injuries heal, but puss you take to the grave."
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I for one dont care what the warrantee papers say , because if the dealer doesnt do his job and the factory doesnt back the dealer it dont mean squat. I owned a cc , I could sit here and write a list of all the items that were covered by warrantee , example pcm power plant which wins awards 6 years running by JD POWERS , after 4 thermstats 2 water pumps in 140hrs and pcm sayed well it received all of its upgrades so it cant possible overheat yet it did! What good is the warrantee, when the ballast system wouldnt fill unless you were moving and making a left hand turn , and you call the factory and they say thats the they work, what goods the warranttee? when the exhaust rubber flapper falls of every year , and again you call the factory and they say well the material isnt as good as it use to be what good is a paper warrantee ? thats just a small version of my intire experiance with cc and their warrantee . But now in 2004 I buy a tige switchi the cheapest version run it for 4 solid years in competition , hitting docks on hot pick ups, pulling 6 men up on slalomn skis to do barefoot at 5400rpm, pull a 12 girl ballet line from a running start of the dock , and if you care to see it in action its on this site in video form and yet with all that the boat has done it never ONCE HAD A WARRANTEE ISSUE and is still being used every tues night and sat, doing the same thing , so I guess paper is more valuable then function, but not to me!
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Originally posted by FIC View PostI for one dont care what the warrantee papers say , because if the dealer doesnt do his job and the factory doesnt back the dealer it dont mean squat. I owned a cc , I could sit here and write a list of all the items that were covered by warrantee , example pcm power plant which wins awards 6 years running by JD POWERS , after 4 thermstats 2 water pumps in 140hrs and pcm sayed well it received all of its upgrades so it cant possible overheat yet it did! What good is the warrantee, when the ballast system wouldnt fill unless you were moving and making a left hand turn , and you call the factory and they say thats the they work, what goods the warranttee? when the exhaust rubber flapper falls of every year , and again you call the factory and they say well the material isnt as good as it use to be what good is a paper warrantee ? thats just a small version of my intire experiance with cc and their warrantee . But now in 2004 I buy a tige switchi the cheapest version run it for 4 solid years in competition , hitting docks on hot pick ups, pulling 6 men up on slalomn skis to do barefoot at 5400rpm, pull a 12 girl ballet line from a running start of the dock , and if you care to see it in action its on this site in video form and yet with all that the boat has done it never ONCE HAD A WARRANTEE ISSUE and is still being used every tues night and sat, doing the same thing , so I guess paper is more valuable then function, but not to me!"Injuries heal, but puss you take to the grave."
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Originally posted by Bandsecurity View PostI cannot agree more with you. The dealer is the most important part of the deal. They make it happen. Capital Water Sports is Sac is awesome and I would take any brand boat there for repair. However, you might be just a tad bit biased as you own a Tige dealership and it appears that KKO works for you. I am sure you guys are great and I assume that you provide steller service to all of your clients. Tige is a great builder, dont get me wrong. I just bought one. I just wish their warranty was on par with the top three. I did not start this thread and other people agree that they wish Tige had a better warranty. It has nothing to do with you or the service you provide. I have seen many complaints on this board about the Tige tower and powder coating and the bimini tops and there has been less emotion. I and others just wish Tige would look at this issue and conform to industry standards.
I know the powder coating is easy to chip on the tower that are lower/raised often, but what tower and bimini warranty issues are you referring to?
Just so everyone knows, after 2 years as a proud Tige owner, I have decided to come onboard with my Tige dealer selling Tiges, as well as CC's Cruiser Yachts, and Campions.
PS, I still think Tige is the best, and it's no longer a biased opinion.Mikes Liquid Audio: Knowledge Experience Customer Service you can trust-KICKER WetSounds ACME props FlyHigh Custom Ballast Clarion LiquidLumens LEDs Roswell Wave Deflector And More
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Originally posted by chpthril View PostThis is the beauty of public forum, unlike some of the others that are controlled by the manufacturer. When a negative thread is posted on others, it is deleted by the factory moderators, but not here
I know the powder coating is easy to chip on the tower that are lower/raised often, but what tower and bimini warranty issues are you referring to?
Just so everyone knows, after 2 years as a proud Tige owner, I have decided to come onboard with my Tige dealer selling Tiges, as well as CC's Cruiser Yachts, and Campions.
PS, I still think Tige is the best, and it's no longer a biased opinion.
Sorry, I meant the tower in connection with the powder coating and that the bimini in 07 is difficult relative to other models, not as warranty item but as a complaint. I know that some stock towers have had weld issues with older towers but those have been corrected.
Trust me, I know that boat building is as much science as art so I dont expect perfection but I would like an assurance that tige will stand behind their product and that comes in the form of a warranty."Injuries heal, but puss you take to the grave."
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Originally posted by Bandsecurity View PostYou are right. The Z1 is sick.
Sorry, I meant the tower in connection with the powder coating and that the bimini in 07 is difficult relative to other models, not as warranty item but as a complaint. I know that some stock towers have had weld issues with older towers but those have been corrected.
Trust me, I know that boat building is as much science as art so I dont expect perfection but I would like an assurance that tige will stand behind their product and that comes in the form of a warranty., the 06 biminis where pretty good, the 07's are a bi'otch to set up, and I'm not fond of the over-the-tower design of the 08's but they are easier then 07. I would recommend to someone that they leave off the factory bimini, and go with a custom like they want.
Cracking welds were on the first gen Metcraft tower, not used since 01 or so.
Tige does stand behind it's product. I bought from a horrible dealer (no longer a Tige dealer) and if it wasn't for the area Rep Randy, and the folks at the factory...Andrew, Harvey, and Lee, I would not still be a Tige owner, and sure as hell not selling them.Mikes Liquid Audio: Knowledge Experience Customer Service you can trust-KICKER WetSounds ACME props FlyHigh Custom Ballast Clarion LiquidLumens LEDs Roswell Wave Deflector And More
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I guess I didnt get my point across , we work on the cc over here all the time even though they are still under said warrantee , we try to remmedy all the issues that these cc owners have not been able to get fixed at a factory level , we have even told them how they can fix the problems that occur ,that they couldnt fix but, in most cases wouldnt fix. Thats why I am saying even though you consider the warrantee to be better, if the factory doesnt stand behind what they have in writting what good is the paper. So if you can transfer a warrantee ,cc warrantee , and they dont take care of an issue did you recieve what you payed for? They can promise you the world but still have to produce it. I became a tige dealer ,and found out at the factory level there were people there that listened when we had any problems and made any necessary adjustments to correct said problem , I had just as many inside people at cc that didnt want to here about how to make something better or correct a particular problem, so again I say if ccs warrantee is the standard to look up to ,I am glad tige doesnt for I want a company behind me that backs up what is in writing and even what issnt in writing and even when some issues are custermer created. And as was said earler no other brand would allow this disscussion to exsist for all to view.
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I got bored and re-read this entire thread. I had to laugh because at the end of the day we're all arguing about a piece of paper that no one on this board has ever had to invoke because their boat never needed it.
As for transferrable, I would venture to guess that the main reason companies won't transfer a warranty is because their lawyers (or insurance company) told them not to.
I'd listen to FIC, he knows what he's talking about.Cursed by a fortune cookie: "Your principles mean more to you than any money or success."
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