KINETIK Audio battery Group Buy

[dcsnowwake]

KINETIK AUDIO battery Group Buy

With all this talk of audio upgrades, I figured it was time to set this up to complement the new audio setups were all doing.
With these batteries and the power we are all running now, to listen it, we all need more power running from the batteries, esp with the boat turned off.
so here we go!

hey guys, finally got everything to set this up!
so this is what we got.
The more we buy, the cheaper it is.

so I learned the Marine Batteries are pretty much the same as the car audio batteries.
so the KM24=the KHC1800
the KM27=the KHC2000
the KM31= the KHC2400
same cases.

For those that do not know, these batteries are the best for any huge audio setup. If you take there specs to any other power cell, it doesnt even come close.

I want to get as many people involved, were going to do one big shipment of them today is the 15th, I want all orders in by say the 24th so we can get them in time for the season to begin.

PM me for what pricing will be around.

thanks guys and hopefully this will go nice and smoothly and I can do some more.


thanks again

[SPBFAN]

KINETIK AUDIO battery Group Buy

Where can I read about these batteries? Do they have a web site?

[Jason B]

Dam, those are some steep prices! I need a new battery but not sure those are the ones I can afford unless they offer some crazy discounts. What's the prices?

[SPBFAN]

Where is the price?

[dcsnowwake]

pms sent to you 3

[Tanner]

If you take there specs to any other power cell, it doesnt even come close.

I think this quote is way off dcsnow. Check out the specs.... they don't even come close to the majority of the 6V's on the market. The majority of us w/ major power sucking systems have concluded that the Trojan T-105 or in my case the T-145, are pretty much the best option.

Something the new guys should be looking at which is relatively important in our situation, is the capacity minutes (I.E. play time) @ XXX amount of current draw.

Most the 6V's you will see will give you this. The better one's will give you capacity mins. @ 75A draw. Most will at least give you a amp draw @ 25A.

The majority of the stereo system batteries, including Kinetik, will not publicly list this rating b/c they know they don't stack up. The batteries listed above are for short term bursts, I.E. SPL competitors, not extended use, as found in our usage.

[Tanner]

Check out what seems to be Kinetik's largest battery, the 2400.... It has a Ah rating of 128. They fail to state if that's a 20H rating or a 5H. Industry standard is generally 20H's so we'll assume that. The Trojan T145 has a 5 AH rating of 215 and a 20 AH rating of 260. This distinguishment is important, b/c the faster u suck down a battery, the quicker it dies.

The T105 has a 20AH rating of 225. So which is a stronger battery? And yes.... trojan's last. There are other 6V's on the market that perform just as well, but usually trojan makes them as well.

Keep in mind though, you will need 2 6V's to make a 12V system.

[dcsnowwake]

Tanner Here are the specs

Model Watts Weight Ah Amps Dimensions
KHC600 600 14 lbs. 20 850 7” x 3” x 6.5”
KHC800 800 26 lbs. 36 950 7.6” x 5” x 6”
KHC1400 1400 39 lbs. 60 1500 9” x 5.3” x 8.1”
KHC1800 1800 54 lbs. 81 1900 10” x 6.5” x 8.2”
KHC2000 2000 61 lbs. 102 2260 12” x 6.5” x 8.2”
KHC2400 2400 69 lbs. 128 2600 13” x 6.7” x 8.5”

as for reserve time this is the time
1800/km24 162 minutes
2000/km27 204 minutes
2400/km31 256 minutes

[Tanner]

What is the current draw at those reserve times?

[Jason B]

How can a 6v battery play for 530 minutes and 12v batteries only play for 200 minutes????????????

The numbers from Trojan's site don't make a lot of sense to me?? <scratching head>

[Tanner]

Jason,

Your thinking of the voltage as the item being the determining factor that gives more capacity... Don't.

To answer your question... Alot of it has to do w/ demand, but more importantly size and weight. Notice Trojan has some 12V's, but even their batteries have less capacity than the 6V. Mostly due to trying to keep things at a certain size and at a certain weight. In order to get a 12V battery to the same capacity as a 6V, you basically have to double it's size.... and in fact there are a few 12V's on the market that have this capacity (crown is one). And guess what.... they are about 300lbs and double to triple the size of the 6V's. Of course keep in mind you have to have 2 6V's to get to a 12V system. However the thing about 6V's is that their lead plates are substantially thicker. Thus a slower discharge rate and a longer life.

Even two 12V's paralleled will generally give less capacity than a relative seriesed pair of 6V's.... due to the lead plates. There has been talks of the Peukert effect offering a nod to the paralleled system, but this does not play out in real world observations. Mainly due once again to the size of the plates.

[Tanner]

How can a 6v battery play for 530 minutes and 12v batteries only play for 200 minutes????????????

I would highly suggest you look at the capacity mins. under a 75A draw. This is truly closer to the draw most of us will be closer to w/ just 2-3 amplifiers. Actually most us, if you do the math would be closer to a 200A draw and above. However, this is at peak draw. On average, we're using quite a bit less. Music is highly dynamic, and the amps have severe peaks and valley's in terms of the power they are drawing.

[Domsz06]

This is always a debate. I choose to get 12v from Costco because I could buy 3 12v for the price of 1 6v. Also the warranty is for 13 months and an broke down warranty for 5 yrs. (and if you have the room, why not have more batteries? ) I bought and put in 6 batteries for my system for the price of 1.5 trojan's. I think it's a better deal. I have played mine for up to 6 hrs with out starting the boat. Granted that all depends on how loud you wanna play it too.

[Tanner]

Something I'll add on to Dom's statement .... I'm about 90% sure the costco batteries are made by Trojan as well

Just be careful how you charge your batteries guys. If you have a multi bank system, be sure to charge them how you have them connected in the boat (rather it be in series or parallel) to ensure an even charge across the batteries.

[wetsounds1]

I run all Kinetik batteries. I have 4 of the 2400 and 2 of the 2000 just for the stereo and 2 of the on board chargers/power supply. (2 factory for the boat too)

I have used all types in the past and can tell you the Kinetiks are by far the best on the market.

They are low esr so not as hard on your alternator and they have a ton of amp hours. So you can play the system for a long time without draining them.

Tim
Wet Sounds