Lake Mead could be dry by 2021..

[Lucky 275]

What do you mean by polluter? Are you talking Co2?

[spharis]

I know 3 gallons of peanut oil to fry a turkey is $28. OUCH!!!!!

I say burn all the oil/gas/diesel/heating oil/coal we can.

[Domsz06]

Did you know there are other things that can be used to create the bio fuel that have a much higher yield and the farm equipment could use that same bio fuel to harvest it? Did you know that Wind power is 100% renewable, free, clean energy that can be used to process the bio fuels? Ethanol is in it's infancy right now and I think you will eventually see that this country (the largest polluter in the world) will be moving towards other alternatives.

yup corn is actually the worst. Wind can be, but it like solar has a very high cost to return. No I know it will move to alternatives and hope it does, but E85 is not the answer.

My wife is a 5th grade teacher and they studied renewable energy for 3 months... I had to help pre-screen a lot of videos and study materials. I could go on but so far you are only putting up the "standard" arguments that every non-informed consumer throws out. Hopefully you aren't taking offense...

I'm not throwing out a non-informed consumer. I'm very informed, and study it quite often. I'm not taking offense, just stating facts. Just like you are. Hope your not taking it either, alively discussion can be fun.

Did youalso know that if people would let oil companies build new refineries they could produce even better fuels?

I'm on my 3rd tank of B5 in my duramax right now and it seems to be going pretty good, mileage is the same and it's $.30 cheaper per gallon.

What's this B5 your talking about? Not read about that yet.

[Domsz06]

I know 3 gallons of peanut oil to fry a turkey is $28. OUCH!!!!!

I say burn all the oil/gas/diesel/heating oil/coal we can.

yup so true, it could be produced cheaper, but only with gov't assistance and to you and me that' means more taxes, just read the link I posted.

[Timmy!]

Of course no offense is taken, once you post over in Off Topic on Corvette Forum for a few years you get VERY thick skin!

What's this B5 your talking about? Not read about that yet.

B5 is 5% bio, 95% diesel. B10 would be 10%, B20 would be 20%. Bio diesel does have a higher lubricity than the ULSD that the normal stations are selling and acts as a cleaning agent for the fuel system which could potentially shorten the life of the fuel filter. I'm not on the "green bandwagon" but I do believe that we should explore alternatives to what we have now and since GM still warranties my truck with 5% bio, I might as well check it out since I am saving money and it's better for the internals of the engine. My plan is to mix it up, run a tank or two of bio followed by regular diesel (ultra low sulfur).

[dogbert]

What's this B5 your talking about? Not read about that yet.

Think of it as flexfuel for diesel, except the numbers are backwards.

[SPBFAN]

What 5 gas did you use? Most dont like to probe diesel. When I was teaching at NTI (UTI's NASCAR Tech) I had 2 students take it upon themselves to to probe their diesel. While it burned very clean; low HC's, no CO's, no NOX, it did cost the school 4k to fix the machine after that.

The biggest emission from diesel is Particulate Matter (Carbon dust) and Sulfur. Both of which have been addressed heavily over the past 10yrs.

From what I've read from the EPA, Sulfur is eliminated, HC's dropped 67%, CO's dropped 48%, Particulate Matter dropped 47% with the use of BIO over Petroleum Diesel. NOX is a caused by heat and can be reduced by tuning and the addition of a catalytic converter.

In my professional opinion, BIOdiesel is shaping up to be a clean alternative to pump diesel.

I am sorry you taught there I think that school was one of the biggest waste of my money and time. I could have done much better going to a junior college and then a University to get a real degree.

I used the 5 gas that attaches to my OTC/Genisys Scan tool. It worked perfect. No problems with the five gas afterwards either.

[rnobbe]

Timmy

Where are you getting the B5 at?

[chpthril]

I am sorry you taught there I think that school was one of the biggest waste of my money and time. I could have done much better going to a junior college and then a University to get a real degree.

I used the 5 gas that attaches to my OTC/Genisys Scan tool. It worked perfect. No problems with the five gas afterwards either.

I'm not hell of a program and school, just too much internal squabbling among Instructors that think they are still fighting for customer pay flat-rate repairs I taught for 1 yr, 2 classes a day, 16hrs a day, 5 days a week + 2hrs drive a day. I was burned out.

Sorry that you didn't get anything out the program, the core curriculum is not designed for the Technician that is already trained, certified and experienced.

I taught Basic Fuel & Ignition Sys, Manufacturer Specific, and Advance driveability and Emission Diagnosis, and many of my students that took the ASE A8 test after my classes, where able to pass on first try.

There must be something to thier program, as Ford, Porsche, VW, Audi, and others, use them for thier factory training.

[Lunchbox]

I'm looking at buying this truck tomorrow... Am I part of the problem???

Vehicle purchased... 2008 Infiniti QX56... used with 6500 miles... Got a killer deal... I'll post pix later... I have a real tow vehicle now... I looked at the Armadas and this came up and I couldn't pass it up... I'm now officially part of the problem...

[SPBFAN]

I'm not hell of a program and school, just too much internal squabbling among Instructors that think they are still fighting for customer pay flat-rate repairs I taught for 1 yr, 2 classes a day, 16hrs a day, 5 days a week + 2hrs drive a day. I was burned out.

Sorry that you didn't get anything out the program, the core curriculum is not designed for the Technician that is already trained, certified and experienced.

I taught Basic Fuel & Ignition Sys, Manufacturer Specific, and Advance driveability and Emission Diagnosis, and many of my students that took the ASE A8 test after my classes, where able to pass on first try.

There must be something to thier program, as Ford, Porsche, VW, Audi, and others, use them for thier factory training.

I agree with you. The program is for a person who never has had any tarining in the industry at all. It will get them started and gives them some good contact with the industry.

However I had quit a bit of training growing up with a father that was very well versed in this stuff. He was an Electrical Engineer on the B2 Bomber and automotive was a cake walk for him. Not as easy for me that is why I attended UTI. Then when I arrived I found out that I needed to be challenged and pushed a little harder. I think I might of gained a little more from the marine program but not sure. It defiantly is a very fast introductions into the industry. I just feel there is a more cost effective way of going about it now days, plus in the long run it will give you an education with flexibility beyond the automotive training.

With UTI you walk away with automotive, Diesel, & Marine certifications and that is it. What about the core education English, Math, Reading, Business, Business Law, there is a whole lot more to this industry these days and if you are going to advance in it you need a little more than automotive certifications. Yes I left the school an ASE Master Technician and I am sure I would not have done that with out the education but again I say there is more than that need today and IMPO there is a better way. Doing what I do in the industry on a daily basis I see it and talk to a lot of co student from UTI that say the same thing. Last year I talked to and put on training classes for 4,000 technicians all over the united states. I here the same story every where. It never changes.

[time2kyl]

Vehicle purchased... 2008 Infiniti QX56... used with 6500 miles... Got a killer deal... I'll post pix later... I have a real tow vehicle now... I looked at the Armadas and this came up and I couldn't pass it up... I'm now officially part of the problem...

I think you were officially a problem before you got a new SUV

[chpthril]

I agree with you. The program is for a person who never has had any tarining in the industry at all. It will get them started and gives them some good contact with the industry.

However I had quit a bit of training growing up with a father that was very well versed in this stuff. He was an Electrical Engineer on the B2 Bomber and automotive was a cake walk for him. Not as easy for me that is why I attended UTI. Then when I arrived I found out that I needed to be challenged and pushed a little harder. I think I might of gained a little more from the marine program but not sure. It defiantly is a very fast introductions into the industry. I just feel there is a more cost effective way of going about it now days, plus in the long run it will give you an education with flexibility beyond the automotive training.

With UTI you walk away with automotive, Diesel, & Marine certifications and that is it. What about the core education English, Math, Reading, Business, Business Law, there is a whole lot more to this industry these days and if you are going to advance in it you need a little more than automotive certifications. Yes I left the school an ASE Master Technician and I am sure I would not have done that with out the education but again I say there is more than that need today and IMPO there is a better way. Doing what I do in the industry on a daily basis I see it and talk to a lot of co student from UTI that say the same thing. Last year I talked to and put on training classes for 4,000 technicians all over the united states. I here the same story every where. It never changes.

We leave the core edu up to the HS. If the kids cant speak English, read, write, and do basic high school math, they would usually wash out about 3 months in as this is not a school to train shade-tree mokaniks, but prepare Students to be Professional Automotive Technicians. It is a credited post secondary school, that is not intended to compete with a 4yr collage.

I know of 1 student, that I had, that came in with a 4yr Engineering Deg, many with a 2 yr from a community collage, and many going onto other programs after.

Where can a young adult get this intense amount of training in this short amount of time? As far as "flexibility beyond the automotive training" Would a medical school like DUKE, teach it's students engineering just to broaden their knowledge, no, it's a field specific school, just like UTI

It cost how many 100K to be a doctor and how many years to earn the real bucks to pay those student loans off. With UTI, that 25K tuition, and 12 months of your time, will have a student pulling 60K a year with in a couple of years in the field. I would love to have been making that when I was 23-24 yrs old.

Most community schools offer an Auto shop program where students can work days and school at night, but like most high school programs, the instructors are teaching 25 year old technology.

[Domsz06]

Of course no offense is taken, once you post over in Off Topic on Corvette Forum for a few years you get VERY thick skin!


B5 is 5% bio, 95% diesel. B10 would be 10%, B20 would be 20%. Bio diesel does have a higher lubricity than the ULSD that the normal stations are selling and acts as a cleaning agent for the fuel system which could potentially shorten the life of the fuel filter. I'm not on the "green bandwagon" but I do believe that we should explore alternatives to what we have now and since GM still warranties my truck with 5% bio, I might as well check it out since I am saving money and it's better for the internals of the engine. My plan is to mix it up, run a tank or two of bio followed by regular diesel (ultra low sulfur).

ok makes sense thanks for explaining.

Think of it as flexfuel for diesel, except the numbers are backwards.

yup makes sense to me

Timmy

Where are you getting the B5 at?

I wanna know too as I would love to add more lubricity in my truck before I have to replace any more o-rings or anything else that has dried up due to the ULSD

I think you were officially a problem before you got a new SUV

he he he

[Lunchbox]

I think you were officially a problem before you got a new SUV

Kyle Kyle Kyle... Me and my new SUV are ready to take a road trip up to Vegas and do work... I'm staying at your place...