Third Party Ballast System

[chpthril]

What kind of girly sacks are you planning on using?

The fly high sacs are hard to tear unless you push a sharp bolt into them. I doubt that you would ever have a problem with them except for the sharp bolts underneath the seats.

They are tough white water raft vinyl.

[xpjim1]

The fly high sacs are hard to tear unless you push a sharp bolt into them. I doubt that you would ever have a problem with them except for the sharp bolts underneath the seats.

Watch out for those bolts. There are lots of them.

[eks]

Food for thought.

As I ponder on how I am going to install a ballast system and not loose storage space, I was wondering if Tige instead of installing the "Tigé LifePlus core stringer system" made of some kind of foam material, if they could effectually replace that with strong fiber glass ballast tanks.

I bet they could put many pounds of ballast if they used that space to as some of the ballast space.

Again, I didn't engineer the boat so I do not know if that reduces the strength and durability of the Tige.

[chpthril]

Food for thought.

As I ponder on how I am going to install a ballast system and not loose storage space, I was wondering if Tige instead of installing the "Tigé LifePlus core stringer system" made of some kind of foam material, if they could effectually replace that with strong fiber glass ballast tanks.

I bet they could put many pounds of ballast if they used that space to as some of the ballast space.

Again, I didn't engineer the boat so I do not know if that reduces the strength and durability of the Tige.

With ballast in the floor, you loose a whole lot of freeboard because the floor is now higher. The depth of the Tige is one of it's many strong points IMO

[eks]

With ballast in the floor, you loose a whole lot of freeboard because the floor is now higher. The depth of the Tige is one of it's many strong points IMO

That makes sense now. Thanks for the info.

What about wedges, do they work well?

I heard that Malibu wedges make the steering hard. The Centurion boat have a wedge that turns with the boat for easier steering.

[anhaney]

That makes sense now. Thanks for the info.

What about wedges, do they work well?

I heard that Malibu wedges make the steering hard. The Centurion boat have a wedge that turns with the boat for easier steering.

Wedges creat a whole new world of problems for you.

[chpthril]

That makes sense now. Thanks for the info.

What about wedges, do they work well?

I heard that Malibu wedges make the steering hard. The Centurion boat have a wedge that turns with the boat for easier steering.

Adding a wedge to a hull that's not designed with it in mind would be like removing the rear spoiler from a Nextel Cup Car.

Bu needs a wedge because their hull has "hook" which creates stern lift to aid in planning. The wedge counters this and pulls the boat down into the water, creating a wake. I've heard that the wedge is = to 1k to 1200 lb's of water ballast.

Tige's Convex hull has "rocker" which allows it to settle into the water without the use of drag hardware or ballast. IMO, Tige can do with the Convex hull what other need 1200lb's ballast to do.

[eks]

I believe that. I was I Lake Powell with a cousin that has a MasterCraft X10 with about 1000lbs of ballast and my wake was bigger than his without a ballast.

It is just my engineer mind trying to figure out stuff that I don't completely understand.

[eks]

I was just wondering, what is the best wake system out there?

Convex V
Wedges
MB puts almost 2000lbs of ballast

[Lunchbox]

I was just wondering, what is the best wake system out there?

Convex V
Wedges
MB puts almost 2000lbs of ballast

Oh here we go... Bring this up on wakeworld and see what happens...

My is this... Obviously this is kind of a loaded question... We all own Tiges on this board (Except Phil but we like him so we let him hang around. ) so we all have the Convex Hull design... So we're all pretty partial to that obviously... But any Boat with Ballast that can create wake is decent in my mind.

I looked at every boat out there and I bought my Tige for its value and the great service I receive from my dealer. I could easily afford a more expensive boat but it's the same reason I drive a 40k Infiniti over a 100k Mercedes, I don't see the extra 70k value that the Mercedes brings to the table... Both get me from A to B... However I do see the value in the Infiniti over a Chevy sedan... I get great service from my Infiniti dealer that a Chevy dealer is not going to be able to touch with a ten foot pole... But it's all personal preference IMO...

I have a 20V with no ballast which is fine for me and what I do... But some of the guys on here wouldn't set foot on my boat because it's not setup for surfing or doesn't have a rampy enough wake when they're used to their RZ2's wake... I'd rather spend my cash on Wetsounds than ballast right now. In the future this may change but right now I'm happy with my setup...

So to answer your question: Whatever you're happy with...

LBX

[chpthril]

Here is my and that's really all it's worth


Tige seems to market it's self as an awesome all-around family/multi-sport boat, and that is why I bought one.

Bu seems to be going for the cross over market also but not as heavy on the family setting as well as most of the other.

MB seems to be a boarders boat all the way.

So, to answer "what is the best wake system out there?" will be different for almost everyone.

Convex: dry weight and hull design compensates for ballast weight

Bu: wedge simulates ballast weight but are prone to being ripped off while turning boat at boarding speed.

MB: hull design and weight I guess. 2K is not too uncommon for most hardcore boarder it seems. Load your RZ up with 2k and it will probably be great. We had about 1800 - 2000 in CP3's 22v one day this fall and the wake was a monster.

I dont think there is really a single best answer to this kind of question. It's all about perspective........what do "I" want and what is best for "ME"

[chpthril]

LB is right, bring this up on WW and watch the fireworks fly

Everyone with a MC, CC, and Bu has the absolute best boat ever made, and Tige is the worst because they heard from their brother's uncle's sister's ex lesbo's lover's current husband's cousin saw one that was ordered with out ballast.

[talltigeguy]

This picture was behind my 24V with about 1600 pounds of ballast and 3 men in the boat. My wake is outstanding that way, and is something that even the most advanced wakeboarder can accomplish most tricks with.



I love that the Tige wake is adjustable on the fly with TAPS. I can go from steep to rampy in 4 seconds. No other boat does it as well. As I have had more birthdays, rampy starts looking better all the time.

[wminnich]

The perfect setup is your personal preference.

I have factory ballast in my 22Ve. I am regularly adding an additional 800lb in two Fly high sacs for my preferred wake shape. It produces a tall full ramp without a trough. That's a total of 1800lbs and TAPs maxed out. However, if we have 4 or 5 people in the boat, we don't usually fill the sacs up...I just use the factory ballast.

The 23ft Nautique will put out a totally freaky vertical wake that will throw you straight up...it produces a trough as well. You don't need a tremendous approach speed to hit that wake hard.

However, I'm quite happy with my 22Ve. I like the interior of the boat better. I'm moving my sacs into the some of the storage area's in the boat this winter. To free up floor space. I don't think I'll need more ramp than I have now...unless I'm trying to pull off some 1080...but that will only happen in my dreams anyway.

The wake my boat puts out with 1800lbs of ballast, is really more than enough for me and my buddies....and I like to think we're pretty serious about wakeboarding. I think the TAPs helps out quite a bit...but you'll still need some ballast.

[chpthril]

The perfect setup is your personal preference.

I have factory ballast in my 22Ve. I am regularly adding an additional 800lb in two Fly high sacs for my preferred wake shape. It produces a tall full ramp without a trough. That's a total of 1800lbs and TAPs maxed out. However, if we have 4 or 5 people in the boat, we don't usually fill the sacs up...I just use the factory ballast.

The 23ft Nautique will put out a totally freaky vertical wake that will throw you straight up...it produces a trough as well. You don't need a tremendous approach speed to hit that wake hard.

However, I'm quite happy with my 22Ve. I like the interior of the boat better. I'm moving my sacs into the some of the storage area's in the boat this winter. To free up floor space. I don't think I'll need more ramp than I have now...unless I'm trying to pull off some 1080...but that will only happen in my dreams anyway.

The wake my boat puts out with 1800lbs of ballast, is really more than enough for me and my buddies....and I like to think we're pretty serious about wakeboarding. I think the TAPs helps out quite a bit...but you'll still need some ballast.

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