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Something about those nautiques is that they sit really high out of the water.
We have one on the local river and I dont know which model it is but the transom on that beast is probably 4-5 feet out of the water.Common Sense is not so Common
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Originally posted by dogbert View PostEveryone's got a trim plate nowadays. It's all about hull design.
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i drove a 220 a little while back while in texas. wake was very good. rest of boat was junk as far as im concerned. seating layout/position with this hurdle in the middle that took an act of god to move to the back. handled like a 18 wheeler with flat tires and was so underpowered i didnt think it was going to make it on plane and that was no ballast and 2 people. i really cant see why anyone would consider a 220 over a tige at all i just cant. a 22ve or RZ2 is by far leaps and bounds better.
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Originally posted by kko View Posti drove a 220 a little while back while in texas. wake was very good. rest of boat was junk as far as im concerned. seating layout/position with this hurdle in the middle that took an act of god to move to the back. handled like a 18 wheeler with flat tires and was so underpowered i didnt think it was going to make it on plane and that was no ballast and 2 people. i really cant see why anyone would consider a 220 over a tige at all i just cant. a 22ve or RZ2 is by far leaps and bounds better.
The PCM Excalibur that was in the one I spent waketoberfest weekend in had quite a bit of power- and that was loaded with 6-8 people, beer, food, dogs, and factory ballast. Someone is wearing owner's goggles.
As far as handling, it was about the same as my 22v- maybe a bit better than mine when loaded down.
The only complaint I had was that its pretty tempermental as far as where the weight is distributed (port and starboard). Not sure if I'm really big on the code-based ignition system, but they've been using that for a while. Oh- the GPS based speed control is seriously cool too.
Regarding wake plates- EVERYONE but MC is using them now (ok... so Epic isnt either). Tigé needs to stop focusing on TAPS, make it standard (try taking a convex-v over 25mph w/o it!), and focus solely on the Convex-V hull... both weighted and unweighted.Freude am Fahren.
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Originally posted by Ruune View Postuhm yeah.. that seat comes out, and is quite handy actually. I didnt like it at first, but it grows on you... especially when everyone wants to watch the riders and you need to space people out so the wake is even.
The PCM Excalibur that was in the one I spent waketoberfest weekend in had quite a bit of power- and that was loaded with 6-8 people, beer, food, dogs, and factory ballast. Someone is wearing owner's goggles.
As far as handling, it was about the same as my 22v- maybe a bit better than mine when loaded down.
The only complaint I had was that its pretty tempermental as far as where the weight is distributed (port and starboard). Not sure if I'm really big on the code-based ignition system, but they've been using that for a while. Oh- the GPS based speed control is seriously cool too.
Regarding wake plates- EVERYONE but MC is using them now (ok... so Epic isnt either). Tigé needs to stop focusing on TAPS, make it standard (try taking a convex-v over 25mph w/o it!), and focus solely on the Convex-V hull... both weighted and unweighted.
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Honestly, its nothing new. TAPS is nothing more than a trim tab. I've seen boats made in the 70s that have bennett trim tabs on them. In fact the curren TAPS drive unit that I have on my boat says "Bennett" on it. Everyone in the industry knows this. Its the convex hull that makes these boats stand out. But, by nature you need to provide downward force on the aft section of the hull to keep the front of the boat from porpoising at higher speeds. This is simple hydrodynamics.
Bottom line- hull design and water displacement are what create the size of the wake. Planing angle adjustment (aka "TAPS") does nothing more than change the shape of the wake and allow for the boat not to porpoise at higher speeds.Freude am Fahren.
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This might be a bit off topic as to the Nautique review, but given that this thread has turned into a wakeplate discussion, here goes. Some lakes have started banning ballast and mechanical devices designed to increase the size of the wake. The wedge comes to mind when I think mechanical devices designed to increase the size of the wake. Where would wakeplates fit? What are the odds that these places would accept the argument that it's simply a shaping device? I think we're going to see more of these rules given that wakeboarding gets a bad rap. Tige's taps system could be a huge marketing plus for them in the future.
I hate these rules because we all know morons cruising around not on plane throw up much more wake, but let's be honest, you end up with a lot of old people with fishing boats and pontoons on the boards.
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Originally posted by illiniboarder88 View PostThis might be a bit off topic as to the Nautique review, but given that this thread has turned into a wakeplate discussion, here goes. Some lakes have started banning ballast and mechanical devices designed to increase the size of the wake. The wedge comes to mind when I think mechanical devices designed to increase the size of the wake. Where would wakeplates fit? What are the odds that these places would accept the argument that it's simply a shaping device? I think we're going to see more of these rules given that wakeboarding gets a bad rap. Tige's taps system could be a huge marketing plus for them in the future.
I hate these rules because we all know morons cruising around not on plane throw up much more wake, but let's be honest, you end up with a lot of old people with fishing boats and pontoons on the boards.Mikes Liquid Audio: Knowledge Experience Customer Service you can trust-KICKER WetSounds ACME props FlyHigh Custom Ballast Clarion LiquidLumens LEDs Roswell Wave Deflector And More
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Originally posted by chpthril View PostI hope they would accept them, as it is simple physics that the plate DOES NOT creat the wake.
TAPS is just a plate that adjusts planing angle and wake shape. The convex-v hull is what creates the wake we crave. TAPS is no substitute for ballast. period. The Convex-V hull allows for a small amount of negative lift, but you're still going to get a far superior wake with additional weight displacing more water under the boat.Freude am Fahren.
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We had taps on our 2002 22i and again on our 2007 22i and it's a far improved version, improved wake results with the 2007.
Yeah it helps a bit with trim, but no question it's bigest function is for wake control.
Natique has the nice interior and fit and finish. And very good quality gel work.
Love the old school Chris Craft stern styling.
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