epic does it different

[ragboy]

well ive put about 175 hours on or boat so far in the last 6 months.. i live 10 min from the lake and am there at least 2 days a week for 5 hours a day and will keepp going also.. if people can spend 70000 on a bout than they prob shouldnt be that worried about fuel or they should prob buy a cheaper boat and then it would work out abot even.. no trying to piss any one off just my view.. different stroke for different folks a guess. ive spent around 3 grand on fuel this year but this isnt a cheap sprot you know.. i also race motocross and you buy a bike for 6 grand and then in two years after you put a total of 15000 of upgrades and parts into a bike and still can only sell it for 4 grand you will never break even.. its just that i feel that if you go into a expensive sport you are going into know that you are gonna have to spend money so why are peple suprised by that?

I don't think anyone in the discussion was "surprised". It was a discussion on the cost of ownership. If 1 boat has a slightly better wake, all else is equal, but it costs you 12k in gas a year, vs. 7k, it is something that should be considered. Is that slightly better wake worth 5k extra a year? or not?

Also, I can afford it, and could afford 10-12gph right now. Business is good. But being self employed, there are times of plenty, and times of not so plenty. My goal is to always have everything paid off, so that if times get not so good... I can still afford to use all of my toys, and my quality of life is just as good. You have to take all these things into consideration, when I was 22, I didn't, and made some big mistakes, which have shaped the way I am today. Hopefully wiser.

[chpthril]

90% of the time, we use our company AMEX for the gas and write it off as travel/entertainment but it still comes out of our pockets in a round about way

[chpthril]

I don't think anyone in the discussion was "surprised". It was a discussion on the cost of ownership. If 1 boat has a slightly better wake, all else is equal, but it costs you 12k in gas a year, vs. 7k, it is something that should be considered. Is that slightly better wake worth 5k extra a year? or not?

Also, I can afford it, and could afford 10-12gph right now. Business is good. But being self employed, there are times of plenty, and times of not so plenty. My goal is to always have everything paid off, so that if times get not so good... I can still afford to use all of my toys, and my quality of life is just as good. You have to take all these things into consideration, when I was 22, I didn't, and made some big mistakes, which have shaped the way I am today. Hopefully wiser.

Well put Rag

[Ruune]

thats also 12k that could be spent on cheap hookers.
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That was the evil me. bad evil me. bad.


...and yes, I'm kidding.

[wannabewakeboarder]

I own an energy drink distribution business and my partner and I write off all of our MX related expenses including 15$ per gallon race gas. The catch-- we truly use the events as promotional tools for the brand. The bikes are done up, our van is there, and banner are strung.

So, to answer your question, yes you can. I would be careful though; if you're not truly capable of making a living by wakeboarding and you can't prove that you generated an income you will be in trouble. Your accountant should be able to tell you what he/she feels is thier comfort level with the write offs before you do it.

I am friends with many proffesional MX riders and they write of ANYTHING that pertains to thier training, wakeboarding should be no different.

Whats up with the energy drink, tell me more, Sorry for the Hijack, Send a PM or somthing.

[ragboy]

I own an energy drink distribution business and my partner and I write off all of our MX related expenses including 15$ per gallon race gas. The catch-- we truly use the events as promotional tools for the brand. The bikes are done up, our van is there, and banner are strung.

So, to answer your question, yes you can. I would be careful though; if you're not truly capable of making a living by wakeboarding and you can't prove that you generated an income you will be in trouble. Your accountant should be able to tell you what he/she feels is thier comfort level with the write offs before you do it.

I am friends with many proffesional MX riders and they write of ANYTHING that pertains to thier training, wakeboarding should be no different.

I am working on a venture in the wakeboard/wakesurf realm, so I can legitimately write off all of this stuff, and the comps and all.

[kana12]

well age doesnt matter.. i am 22 and own my own business and own everything i have and dont own a simple credit card.. no debt.. i own both of my houses and 120 acres .. age has nothing to do with it. its called common sense.. and all my toys.. age has nothing to do with decisions its the influence you had growing up.. lol this is dumb.. sory if i offended you man.. lets just squash this and just agree that tige is a better boat alright... sorry again if ive offended you or any one else that was not my intent

[laketime]

i wonder if the stereo carry's very well being that low. i wonder if it gets washed out esier by motor and water noise

[anhaney]

My 2cents

I think EPIC is building a very nice boat. My friend used to own one. It was one of the boats that peaked my intrest in aport boats. I would not mind selling EPIC beside TIGE's. I would probably sell more TIGE's but EPIC would be a great alternative to the TIGE if they could not afford a TIGE.

[kana12]

i wonder how they handle rough water ?

[Moki]

The ultimate wakesurf boat is this new Tige prototype called the TigeTug TZ204:

[dogbert]

LOL, nice photoshop...now all you need is Shamu on the back of that thing.

[Ruune]

I think EPIC is building a very nice boat. My friend used to own one. It was one of the boats that peaked my intrest in aport boats. I would not mind selling EPIC beside TIGE's. I would probably sell more TIGE's but EPIC would be a great alternative to the TIGE if they could not afford a TIGE.

that's actually a different company- Toyota actually used to make a line of boats called Epics. They were powered by a 4L DOHC V8, and put out about 300hp. Toyota quit making them because they were losing money on the boats. A real shame though, they were quite good boats.

[anhaney]

that's actually a different company- Toyota actually used to make a line of boats called Epics. They were powered by a 4L DOHC V8, and put out about 300hp. Toyota quit making them because they were losing money on the boats. A real shame though, they were quite good boats.

Your right that is the one I am talking about. I thought maybe Toyota sold off to these guys.

[Razzman]

No they are totally different boats. Here's a couple of shots of the Toyota Epics. What eventually killed Toyota was a major boo boo on their part. They left their molds out in the hot sun at the plant and they warped just enough that the boats that were produced from them would not steer corectly and suffered from chine lock. Toyota eventually admitted to it and had to replace each and every boat affected. After that they threw in the towel. From what i understand they were/are real nice boats powered by a marinized Lexus motor.