Is there any Tige dealer that can fix a 6.0 ? Not you Don! :)

[Wake Havasu]

Boat still cuts off under power( above 4,000 rpms) and goes to idle.

I stop re start and then she goes for awhile only to cut down to an anemeic sounding idle.

I wasted a lot time and money at Boats of Nevada and thier it's the "the perfect pass is the reason " B.S.

So I am looking for a REAL Tige dealer than can fix my boat.
Here's the deal; I am willing to take her as far as Missouri IF the dealer guarantees he can solve my problem.

The guarantee is that if he cannot solve my Tiges engine problem he pays all my expenses to get my boat there and back to Palm Springs,CA. (Hotels food,gas.)

Lets see Tige step up!

As its a Marine power warranty perhaps a big engine Wake Boat vendor such as Mailibu or Master Craft could help me.

I shall have to ask at their sites next.

[tigewatersports]

Wake Havasu,
We have seen this is in a couple other boats very recently and the customers have brought them in to us. Our service manager has adressed this issue with marine power and has had good luck with the results.

We know what the problem is, give us a chance to fix it.

Call me so we can your boat in here ASAP.

Daniel
951.737.9801

[CP3]

Can you not send the motor back to marine power or tige?

[Wake Bandits]

Take it in, they have a fix for it.
I tow our Tige' from Parker to Corona, and they are teriffic.

[TigeDuner]

Try Tige Performance Boats of AZ. The service manager (Kevin) has said that they have been successful solving 6.0 problems in the past. We have the 6.0 and have had good luck with this motor, just hit 130 hours. Keep trying.

[anhaney]

Here is the problem

In todays world many boat and car dealers can no longer get good technicians. They are far and few between. I spend hundreds of hours training parts changers and technicians on how to fix drivability problems every year. As a technician in todays worlds you really have to know how to read a lap scope, scan tool, and multi meter, and then deceiver the data. If you can not and are not willing to get the training to learn how to then you have know business working on these items. That is the real problem you are facing in todays world.

I have the hardest time taking my cars, trucks, and boats in for repairs. Only because I know the problems before they go in for repairs. I only take them to the shop if they are under warranty to save the parts expense. Then as I just proved last week with my engine alignment. They really screw things up and I end up fixing everything the right way my self anyways. It really sucks. I have access to all the diagnostic equipment and scan tools we need to pull codes and read them on these things. Let me know if you are having problems. If you want to make a trip to Bakersfield I will help you over a weekend. I am sure we can find out what is happening. There is a sensor somewhere that is dropping out on you and all we need to do is find that sensor. I know how to use a scope and all other tools. In fact that might be a fun project to figure out so we can share the info and not keep it a secret like the dealers do. If they know the problems they should post it for us.

[FIC]

If you dont have a diagnostic manual and all the equipment to test with ,you will not be able to find the problem, if it is this one particular code, code 81 the wiring to the tac module will have to be rewired ,only the dealers have the wiring diagrams to correct this problem , posting the fix to correct this problem would only cause more of a problem for the average person who is not a certified mechanic. As a mechanic for 50 years , 15 years ASE master tech. I disagree that it is easy to diagnose a problem , with electronics there can be a mulitude of things which can create gliches that can be hard to trace some times a dealer may need to try some basics first and if the problem reocurs have to dive in further, some problems our custermer created due to the addition of other items added such as power amps . Give the dealer a chance to find the problem.

[FIC]

I left out one item as to perfect pass there have been issues pertaining to the compatibilty of perfect pass to the marine power electronics , this falls all in the lap of perfect pass because tige requested them to work with marine power to make there system work with marine power and they didnt respond.

[anhaney]

I left out one item as to perfect pass there have been issues pertaining to the compatibilty of perfect pass to the marine power electronics , this falls all in the lap of perfect pass because tige requested them to work with marine power to make there system work with marine power and they didnt respond.

I say yes give the dealer the chance to fix the problem but is seems that in this case the dealer has not fixed the issue. I own two different scan tools. one lab scopes and work for the largest manufacture of OE and aftermarket scan tools and diagnostic equipment in the world. I would say that not all mechanics are incompetent but that a true technician in todays world is hard to find and in most cases it is proved and stated by ASE (Automotive Service Excellence Council) of which we are both certified with. " That only one in thirty mechanics/technicians have the competence level to understand todays vehicle electronic systems", and they expect that margin to even get greater as technology becomes greater in this industry.

It appears that this member has been struggling with this issue for some time and needs to get it resolved. This does not look good on TIGE and I know that TIGE the manufacture would not let this go on like this if they understood what is really going on here. I am sure that Andrew or Harvey is already working on it and he will be taken care of. All I am offering is my experience if needed in dealing with drivability issues to help a fellow TIGE owner out. I know what he is going through and do not want him going out side of TIGE' to get it fixed because that is not needed. I also understand that it is frustrating to be at the best time of the season in CA and not be able to use your boat. I was there last year and in that position. In fact I was in that position again because two different dealers who are no longer dealers screwed my boat up. I finally took care of it myself. They had my engine so far out of alignment it took 10 hours to get everything back in proper alignment. I had to remove all the motor mounts and slide pins to free them up to move the engine. I had to remove and shim the sturt and a few other things. So I understand his frustrations.

[xpjim1]

I left out one item as to perfect pass there have been issues pertaining to the compatibilty of perfect pass to the marine power electronics , this falls all in the lap of perfect pass because tige requested them to work with marine power to make there system work with marine power and they didnt respond.

Is this with all MP engines or the 6.0 only?

[dogbert]

anhaney, the problem you point out is not unique to Tige. I had the same issues with another dealer here in town and that is, in fact, why I went with a Tige instead of a SAN. Even my dealer had issues keeping good techs as you pointed out. Sometimes they don't always get it right, but then they make it right.

The issue that's being described here sounds pretty complicated because it involves computers and electronics. Having worked in that industry for many years, compatibility issues are a bear. If your dealer isn't talking to Tige to resolve these issues, you're not going to get it resolved.

The good news is that several dealers seem to have a fix.

Wake, I'd take it to one of those places. Those guys have a great rep and it sounds like they're communicating with Tige on the issue. You could probably verify this with Andrew or Harvey. I'd PM them so you don't make an unnecessary trip.

[FIC]

The drive by wire system is the same on all the engines , as well as Indmar , which powers Mastercraft, Malibu, PCM , which powers Nautiques , the only differance on PCM is they still use a cable to operate the pps sensor , thats why they stayed with perfect pass because it could hook up to the cable. Drive by wire is very sensitive to voltage change so when your batteries start getting older with a dual battery system it can trip the engine into a limp mode , both computors have to be powered by the same power source .

[whitlock87]

Wake Havasu,
We have seen this is in a couple other boats very recently and the customers have brought them in to us. Our service manager has adressed this issue with marine power and has had good luck with the results.

We know what the problem is, give us a chance to fix it.

Call me so we can your boat in here ASAP.

Daniel
951.737.9801

I have had nothing but great service and support from these guys.
Both Baryon and John are great to work with...

[anhaney]

I have had nothing but great service and support from these guys.
Both Baryon and John are great to work with...

I have heard nothing but praise about this dealer and I am really surprised that there is someone out there that feels he is not getting serviced. These guys have won numerous industry awards.

[whitlock87]

His problem is with Boats of Nevada.
I am with Daniel on recommending Tige Water Sports in Corona for the service.

(Just to clear anything up)