Batman in a malibu, Is this him?

[turbonine]

So Tige took the boat back and wrote a contract up to shut you up....

Nondisparagement Agreement to be exact.

[zad0030]

Nondisparagement

wow thats a big word!

[da.bell]

Nondisparagement Agreement to be exact.

Now that is too funny..... Why am I not surprised??????

[talltigeguy]

I was surprised to see you mentioning anything here, to be honest. Is discussing the nondisparagement agreement even allowed, or admitting that one exists? I would be careful that admitting it happened violates the agreement...or at least if Tige got nasty, they could run you through a bunch of legal mumbo jumbo to prove it is Ok what you mentioned so far.

Nice wake on the malibu, BTW.

[chpthril]

It's too bad that he cant explain what was wrong with the boat, I think there is a huge difference between bashing someone, and simply stating factual issues about a product. Since this is a public forum made up of mostly Tige owners, I would love to know what was wrong with the boat that could not be addressed by Tige and the dealer that would have made Turbonine another satisfied owner.

[wannabewakeboarder]

It's too bad that he cant explain what was wrong with the boat, I think there is a huge difference between bashing someone, and simply stating factual issues about a product. Since this is a public forum made up of mostly Tige owners, I would love to know what was wrong with the boat that could not be addressed by Tige and the dealer that would have made Turbonine another satisfied owner.

I was wondering the same thing as you chp, It must have been somthing big to make him sign a contract.

[wannabewakeboarder]

mostly Tige owners

[turbonine]

I was surprised to see you mentioning anything here, to be honest. Is discussing the nondisparagement agreement even allowed, or admitting that one exists? I would be careful that admitting it happened violates the agreement...or at least if Tige got nasty, they could run you through a bunch of legal mumbo jumbo to prove it is Ok what you mentioned so far.

Nice wake on the malibu, BTW.

There isn't anything explicit that would preclude me from disclosing the fact the I have signed a nondisparagement agreement with Tige. It becomes an issue if I start bashing Tige based on some of the "issues" I encountered.

Thanks on the wake. Full MLS, 4 people, Power Wedge half way, 21.5mph, and rope at 70".

[wannabewakeboarder]

There isn't anything explicit that would preclude me from disclosing the fact the I have signed a nondisparagement agreement with Tige. It becomes an issue if I start bashing Tige based on some of the "issues" I encountered.

Thanks on the wake. Full MLS, 4 people, Power Wedge half way, 21.5mph, and rope at 70".

How much dose the Malibu launch sys. hold 1,500?

My friend says its not enough so he took out the hard tanks and runs 2,750 of water filled sacs and 500+lbs of lead, so hes running 3,250lbs of ballast and it has to be plenty. I think his boat is only suppose to hold 1,100 lbs of people and gear????

[turbonine]

How much dose the Malibu launch sys. hold 1,500?

My friend says its not enough so he took out the hard tanks and runs 2,750 of water filled sacs and 500+lbs of lead, so hes running 3,250lbs of ballast and it has to be plenty. I think his boat is only suppose to hold 1,100 lbs of people and gear????

1250 lbs. 250 up front, 500 in the middle, and 250 in each rear.

[wannabewakeboarder]

What would you say an 03-04 21' wakesetter will hold(people and gear) not MLS

[turbonine]

What would you say an 03-04 21' wakesetter will hold(people and gear) not MLS

Not quite sure what your asking. Space wise, 6 people and 4 boards comfortably.

[talltigeguy]

Thanks on the wake. Full MLS, 4 people, Power Wedge half way, 21.5mph, and rope at 70".

Does the wedge at half way down cause an enormous amount of drag, not necessarily downward thrust?

I am most intrigued with malibu's power wedge when I saw the surf wake on a 247. It was ginormous. The wedge half way down at surf speeds makes sense, but once on plane, seems like it would drag along with less downward thrust, and more rearward drag. Does that make sense?

[Domsz06]

I just realized that one major disadvantage of the malibu tower is that you have to put a mirror on the windshield. That means you have to worry about the mirror when you put a cover on as well. Windshield mounted mirrors simply do not provide as much visibility as well.

yeah I HATE mine

[turbonine]

Does the wedge at half way down cause an enormous amount of drag, not necessarily downward thrust?

I am most intrigued with malibu's power wedge when I saw the surf wake on a 247. It was ginormous. The wedge half way down at surf speeds makes sense, but once on plane, seems like it would drag along with less downward thrust, and more rearward drag. Does that make sense?

I could not tell you specifics on what angle the wedge is at according to the gauge. I can tell you that when the gauge is at all the way down, the wedge is at 90 degrees. When the gauge is at half way, I don't know if that correlates to the wedge being at 45 degrees. I may have to conduct an out of water test to figure out the correlation between wedge position and gauge position. Can be slightly difficult cause the wedge requires forward movement to be raised.

For the sake of discussion I will just refer to the gauge.

Yes there is more drag when the wedge is 1% to 50% deployed, most notably out of the hole. But when on plane you it is hard to tell the position of the wedge without looking at the gauge or wake. I would hypothesis that the wedge is really never in a rearward drag position based on RPMs when on plane and the wake shape. I think the wake would really have some dramatic changes if the wedge changed from a downward drag to a rearward drag.