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    Today, I was the idiot at the ramp!

    The wife and kids and I took the boat out today, as we were all home at the same time for once. 85F, very light breeze, perfect day to be out.

    After about an hour on the lake, the wind kicked up....seemingly out of nowhere. I wanted to get in before it got really bad, so we headed back to the ramp. Well the ramp was on the "windy" side of the lake, and the wind was a crosswind too....just for added humility.

    So I docked the boat, tied it off and went & got the trailer. Backed it in. Wife takes over in the truck at this point. I take the boat out to get a decent shot at loading. Now, I'm a pilot, so I know all about crosswind. This was like trying to thread a needle at 50 feet though. Now before I get to the ugly part, I have to note that the bottom of my boat is completely flat, and therefore the trailer needs to be flat (side to side) too, otherwise you wreck the plastic rub-rail.

    ok, now for the ugly part. I'm coming in as slow as I can and "crabbing" into the wind. At this point I notice 3 dudes standing there watching.....real nice. As I was about 15 feet out from the trailer, I hit what can only be described as an underwater gravel pile....probably from everyone powering their boats on. Needless to say, it was a little distracting

    I brought hte boat in pretty straight, but as soon as it hit the bunks, the back got pushed by the wind and the rub-rail got rolled up against the guide. Smashed the crap out of the rub-rail, actually broke it in half and took out about a 3-4 foot section. So I though, ok, cut your losses, and crank the thing on. In the midst of swearing to myself, I look up and the three dudes were laughing....pricks....

    So I go grab the strap and bring it down to the boat. Now I only gotta crank it up about 5-6 feet, right? WRONG!! The teeth in the winch gave out like Mike Tysons teeth in a fight.

    Finally the guy pulling out his boat next to me comes over and offers to help. We were able to put the trailer back in a little farther. The guy stood there in the water and pushed the boat into the wind while I powered it the rest of the way up onto the trailer. NOW, the teeth on the winch are gone. How do I keep the boat from falling back off when pulling out of the water?? You take your anchor rope and essentially tie the boat to the trailer.

    I thanked the guy for helping, and came home to lick my wounds.

    The prop (stainless) was dinged up pretty good, but nothing I couldnt fix with a pipe wrench and a file. I think I'm gonna have to replace the entire rub-rail now, and of course the winch.

    You ever get that feeling you shoulda stayed in bed?? Its amazing how fast a great day can go completely to hell.

    Ok, I'm better now. So two questions:
    1. How heavy duty of a winch should I get to replace the bad one?
    2. Anyone ever replaced the entire rub rail, or can it be repaired with a new piece?
    Reality is only an illusion that occurs due to a lack of alcohol.

    #2
    What part of your rail broke? The whole thing or just the insert?

    Your boat must not have been floating much, and more on the bunks. How deep were you backed in?
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      #3
      The insert is rubber. The "frame" broke, the part that is right up against the gel-coat. The rubber insert just ..... well .... gets inserted into it. It is similar to this picture. Its the black part that broke.

      As far as the loading.....I was in to about the top of the wheel-wells on the trailer - at that ramp if you go in any deeper, the trailer falls off the back of the ramp and it gets all lopsided. The problem is that the bottom is perfectly flat. On my old boat, there was some V to the bottom, so it was pretty easy to load. This one is a lot more challenging.
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      Last edited by jleger98; 05-20-2007, 02:58 AM.
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        #4
        Sorry to hear about your damage.
        I have never worked on my rub rail.
        Doesn't your trailer have guides on the side to help guide it in and center the boat?
        Mike Allen, Tigé owner since 1997

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          #5
          Wow that really sucks!!! I hate people that dont even try to make some attempt in helping a fellow boater out!!!

          Do onto others!!!!!! It takes balls to share horror a story about yourself!!

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            #6
            That does suck.
            I would take the rub rail off and see if it is complete or a section and then replace accordingly.
            Those guys at the ramp ... kharma will come for them one day on the lake.

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            I always try to help anyone else out at the ramp or at least offer...just a simple hey you want me to hook up the bow for you...I might as well I am already there myself.

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              #7
              Yuk...the frame is riveted in on my boat. Let me know what piece you end up ordering. I have been thinking about replacing my insert with stainless.
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                #8
                Originally posted by TeamAllen View Post
                Sorry to hear about your damage.
                I have never worked on my rub rail.
                Doesn't your trailer have guides on the side to help guide it in and center the boat?

                The only guides my trailer has are the insides of the wheel wells. Otherwise the bunks are flat. If you happen to have pics of your trailer, I'd love to see em. I gotta do something to make the thing easier to load.
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by spharis View Post
                  Yuk...the frame is riveted in on my boat. Let me know what piece you end up ordering. I have been thinking about replacing my insert with stainless.
                  Mine is riveted as well.

                  yllw20: Its all one piece, joins in the middle of the transom. So if I gotta take part off, I gotta take all of it off. Besides, I haven't been able to find anything other than 50' or 75' lengths so far.
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                    #10
                    i wouldnt go for stainless rubrail spharis, they get scratched really easily and when the sun heats them up they get quite hot. i was on a boat with stainless and they look good for a while, but they really aret that practical tbh.

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                      #11
                      thx for the info.

                      jleger, I had seen 100' sections online somewhere for replacement, but I do not recall the site. The math on it was twice the length + 1.5 the transom + 2' or something like that.
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                        #12
                        yeah, sorta makes replacing a small section out of the question doesn't it.
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                          #13
                          Jleger98, i had an almost identical situation Saturday as well! We went out to Don Pedro with three other boats for a day of riding and tubing. The wind kicked up real good to the point my little 'ol comp was taking a beating so we called it a day around 4PM. I docked on the windward side of the dock no problem, turned parallel to the dock and the wind pushed me right up. Got the trailer in the water and move the boat around the dock and the wind kept pushing me out no matter what angle i came in! Finally nosed up to the dock, threw a rope out to the wife and she pulled me over, we just pulled the boat up on the trailer, screw it!

                          My boat is completely flat in the stern as well so it's a real challenge getting it on the trailer right! It never goes on correctly no matter how you approach, whether under power or pulling on. Once on the wife will hold a fender between the rubrail and the guide and pull them together otherwise it will drift to one side or the other! What a pain!
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                            #14
                            Here is the only picture I have of the trailer. I have an Extreme Trailer. I think most other trailers have the guide posts as well. It would be very difficult to load your boat without them. Especially in the conditions you described.
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                              #15
                              yeah, I love the hull on the boat, but there really needs to be some sort of guide or something to keep the boat in the middle. My next-door neighbor is an engineer, and the guy across the street manages a metal-fab shop. I might buy some beer and sit in the driveway and figure out a better way.


                              So aside from the rub-rail, what size of winch should I get to replace the busted one? I know overkill is always good, but not sure if I want to go for 500 bux for an electric winch that can bend the trailer in half if you let it.
                              Last edited by jleger98; 05-21-2007, 02:28 PM.
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