Has anyone actually weighed the boat and trailer?

[Ks]

I am shopping for a new tow vehicle and am trying to figure out how much my 22Ve with trailer and fuel will approximately weight?

Has anyone stopped at the scales at all to check?

There are some killer incentives right now on the Ford F150's ( .5% and 4K cash back) So I would like to capitalize on the sale.

does anyone tow with a F150? ( V8 5.4 4x4 Crewcab)

I am looking at the following:

-Lariat
-King Ranch
-Harley truck ( although because of the 22 inch wheels and AWD system the tow rating is lower then the above trucks)

Any input/commnets or guesses are welcome

[Paublo]

I have not actually weighed by boat and trailer, but a year ago had to take a real good look at my total weight. It turned out my tires that came new on my extreme trailer were under capacity for the trailer rating and for my set-up. Anyway, take the boat weight- say 4000# (many people have two batteries, tower speakers, amps, bimini, etc), double axle trailer will be 1500#, 40 gallons of gas is 250# (gas is a little over 6#/gal), and I figure about 250# for gear (several wakeboards, tube/toys, many life jackets, an anchor, packed ice chest, food, tools, and stuff. That puts you around 6000# to be safe.

The F-150 w/ 5.4L should pull it fine, just take your time up and down the mountains. Also remember the capacity rating is based on an empty vehicle with only 2 people in it. So if you are taking a big trip and have 5 people, camping gear, etc., you have to add that weight to what you are pulling. When we go to Lake Powell each summer with a group of around 15 people, we haul around 25 cases of water, soda, juice, etc. That along with 3 big ice chests and gear puts a pretty good sized load in the back of my truck. Then we stop in Page and get another 500# of ice.

[spharis]

Brother has a FX F150.....it burned oil from the day he bought it. Ford said it was acceptable. It will burn a quart every 3000 miles, sometimes up to 3.

Transmission started wigging out around 80k, yes he tows a light trailer with quads, so he took it to the shop. Nice engineering tidbit here: There is a vent on the trans (blowby valve). So while the tech was running the truck to get the trans to shift to pull a code, the trans fluid purged out of the blow by, and landed on the hot cadallidic converter........trans fluid burns easily.....flames came out from both sides, and it melted a wiring harness....nice huh.

I know everyone has opinions on trucks and brands, but my family has never had luck with Fords.....we go through a lot of vehicles. Every Ford we have ever owned has had trans problems except 1.....about a 94 powerstroke. On it the rotors would crack without pulling a trailer, and the engine knocked like no tomorrow. My pops owns a trucking company and the vehicles are used, but I wouldn't say abused. They have 3 full time mechanics working on everything so maintenance is done. The only deisel I would recommend is the older Cummins, or the newer Duramax.....we have one of each of those now, Cummins is approaching 350k with no real issues other than power steering pump at about 250k. Also, the drivers are Silverados. They have their share of issues as well, but nothing real major, like a tranny crapping out. I have had the newer Dodges, and Chevy's and am now back in a 99 chevy. I had no problems with the Chevy's, but the Dodge (02, NBS 4.7 before the Hemi was available in the 1500) had transmission issues at 45k. I got rid of it before I had to replace that expensive POS.

I am coming due for a new rig end of this year, so I will be looking at Tundras and Sierras.

[chpthril]

I have not weighed mine, bit here are the figures I went with.

Boat = 4000
trailer = 1500
fuel = 250
tower = 150
gear/acc=250

Some of these are probably on the "heavy" side but I would rather over estimate and and have a little cushion.

[flackpack]

I tow my 22V all over with an Expedition that has the 5.4l engine. Loaded with weight from a family, and moving from California to Texas, we never had a hill we couldn't climb with enough power. Oil consumption has been just fine, and the truck rides well when it is unloaded.

I don't think you will have any issues towing with a F-150.

[dcsnowwake]

I tow my RZ with a grand cherokee with the striaght 6, no problem at all, but def buying a truck this summer to tow it. jeep was fine for the switch, but now with the rz, ill feel better with a truck

[yllw20]

Matt G tows his rz2 w/f150. I know because I am the ramp guy and he is the boat guy. It pulled his rz out just fine on a pretty steep local ramp here. You may want to pm him for how he feels about towing w/it.

[Domsz06]

i have a f250 powerstroke, and will never go to unlead again. I hate the new durmaxes, and my friend all have problems. It's all in what you like. I mean when it comes down to it there are problems with every truck and then there are trucks that have no problems at all.

You won't have a problem towing it with what your getting, esp if your in a flat area. If your in a hilly area again no problems, you may not be the first to get there, but it will get you there.

After towing with a 3/4 ton I'm not sure i'll ever go back to a 1/2 ton. It's all a matter of what you like. I hauled my boat from OKC to Bako, CA the boat was fully loaded, had wood on the trailer, and the bed of my truck was PACKED, and i went anywhere and any speed I wanted on 40. Never dropped below the speed limit on any pass or anything.

I love DIESEL!! and the new twin turbo fords are calling my name. My brother has the 6.0 liter and he loves it, damn good truck.

[Matt Garcia]

I have the Lariat 5.4L Crew Cab F-150 and have no problems except when I climb a few steep hills. The engine will work a bit harder but nothing that is too extreme.

I have never had an issue with oil consumption either. Stopping, cruising and accelerating are not an issue as well. I wanna say that I get 9-11 gph towing?

However It wont tow like my old Power Stroke 4x4 Super Duty but I am very happy with it.

[Domsz06]

was always wondering what the 1/2 tons get when towing. I still get close to 14 on mine. Now that i'm in cali and I have to stay at 55 I get almost 20

Diesel doesn't even know it's there

[Ks]

I am going to go with the F150, the deals are to good to pass up and their is no other incentives on any other trucks that even make it close right now.

I really want to get the Harley truck but the tow rating is so much lower then the regular F150's ( 22 inch wheels and AWD system, makes the tow rating 5100LBS) I figure my boat is 6100 give or take.

Why do the wheels play such a factor? isn't the overall diameter the same? what about all these dudes on WW that show off their whatever with 22 and 24 inch wheels...

am I missing something or just being paranoid?

[mtnsmith]

I rode in a tahoe towing an 18-foot maxim with big 22" wheels and the lower profile tires and it rode like crap! It felt like we were on the bump stops since there was so little sidewall give on the lower profile tires. Plus those tires are crazy expensive compared to normal light truck tires.

[Domsz06]

sure you can tow with it, who said it's gonna ride good. You can always change your rear end. I bet the harley doesn't have the same gears that the regular one has.

[chpthril]

I will never put low-pro tires on any SUV/truck that own. First they ride like crap because of the loss of "spring" in the sidewall. 2nd, with the lack of sidewall flex and sidewall hight, it makes the tire/wheel more susceptible to damage or blowout due to road hazards etc.

Not all tire/wheel "upgrades" have the same overall rolling distance, even those done at the Dealer. This is why most SUV's and trucks have the ability to have the ECM reprogrammed. This will effect the final drive ratio at the pavement and Engine RPM at towing speeds. This changes the Rear wheel Torque Curve, and could result in a lower tow rating.

[gman]

Make sure you have an aux trans cooler and make sure you have either 3.73 or 4.10 gears. Also take a look at the rating on your ball. It should be 6000lbs or better.