New Tige owner here! Few questions about TAPS 3 troubleshooting and parts.

[Zackdogg]

From what I’ve heard the new actuators also allow for a much more precise setting every time with much faster deployment.

And trust me Zack if I could have the new actuators on my boat I would have had them long ago aha. The computer control software doesn’t lineup unfortunately.

My thoughts exactly. Also the reason I would consider the heavier duty, new actuators I found out about yesterday. If they’re stronger, they probably won’t be as affected by that resistance on them, making things more accurate. Maybe someone can get their hands on a set and perform a test of some sort.

I feel like software should be the easy part of that swap. I also know Jack Shiznit about writing software.

Maybe I suck at this engineering thing!!


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[KoolAid]

So the Lenco units have about 800lbs of force. The Parker actuators have 3,000lbs of force. When you tell the Parker to move 1.25" while underway with 4,000lbs of ballast, its going to move 1.25". Lenco in the same scenario will move about an inch.

Lots of cost with updating an older boat to the Parkers. In the end you are better off going to GSA's with the lencos as an upgrade. As said before, the Parkers are overkill to ensure there will not be failures out in the field. Do not expect a retro fit kit for 2015-2019 boats for the current Parker setup. Even if there was one, the only screen supported that is still being used is the 10.6.

[Germaine Marine]

My thoughts exactly. Also the reason I would consider the heavier duty, new actuators I found out about yesterday. If they’re stronger, they probably won’t be as affected by that resistance on them, making things more accurate. Maybe someone can get their hands on a set and perform a test of some sort.

I feel like software should be the easy part of that swap. I also know Jack Shiznit about writing software.

Maybe I suck at this engineering thing!!


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We have been doing this upgrade/retro for some time. I think we were pretty instrumental in why Tige went with the new system in the first place. They obviously took it off the deep end with the parkers which is insanity. It is now the most consistent system that's ever been developed. Tige usually innovates and with that have some some growing pains along the way but one could argue that when they get their bearings with projects, the end result ends up being pretty spectacular.

As far as what we have been doing for over 4 years? Retro GSA ran off the screen.....

The actuator plane with GSA is much flatter, the plate needs to be deployed at max only a fraction of what taps 3 needed. That flatter arc, and less deployed angle results in about 600-700lbs of force again the lenco. We rarely see a failure with the upgrade especially if we did the instal.

Does the system give you the consistency of taps3T? Not while underway, but it narrows the gap significantly. We did D&P Powells z3. This included several lake trips of running the actuators up and down over and over and unplugging to see under load what the deployment angles were fluctuating under load. We have dead set numbers on our end that are perfect. D and P Z3 is truly a one touch boat. He fills all the ballast, and turns the system on and its perfect without anything being needed to be done.

The retro with lencos is outstanding if installed and setup correctly. This is where we come in to play. Our hours and hours of doing the system and experimenting has yielded a perfect setup every time. Lots of variables but we have it figured out to the T now.

[cnote]

so @koolaid, along these lines, i understand there's no parker retrofit...get it. but if i wanted to simply swap taps 3 plates to gsa plates is there anything preventing local tige dealer from doing it? before i was told it couldn't be done, but they might have thought i was asking for the actuators and computer as well. also, if i do the gsa plate swap would this void my warranty?

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[cnote]

@Germaine Marine ... need to get back in touch on this. I'm in Texas so a drive to AZ not feasible, but if i can get my dlr eagle (or gsa) to do the install i am very interested. '18 R23, taps 3.

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[Zackdogg]

We have been doing this upgrade/retro for some time. I think we were pretty instrumental in why Tige went with the new system in the first place. They obviously took it off the deep end with the parkers which is insanity. It is now the most consistent system that's ever been developed. Tige usually innovates and with that have some some growing pains along the way but one could argue that when they get their bearings with projects, the end result ends up being pretty spectacular.

As far as what we have been doing for over 4 years? Retro GSA ran off the screen.....

The actuator plane with GSA is much flatter, the plate needs to be deployed at max only a fraction of what taps 3 needed. That flatter arc, and less deployed angle results in about 600-700lbs of force again the lenco. We rarely see a failure with the upgrade especially if we did the instal.

Does the system give you the consistency of taps3T? Not while underway, but it narrows the gap significantly. We did D&P Powells z3. This included several lake trips of running the actuators up and down over and over and unplugging to see under load what the deployment angles were fluctuating under load. We have dead set numbers on our end that are perfect. D and P Z3 is truly a one touch boat. He fills all the ballast, and turns the system on and its perfect without anything being needed to be done.

The retro with lencos is outstanding if installed and setup correctly. This is where we come in to play. Our hours and hours of doing the system and experimenting has yielded a perfect setup every time. Lots of variables but we have it figured out to the T now.

I’m totally aware, and plan on doing the GSA plates, if I ever get my boat back. Maybe I’m just gun shy of the Lencos, and it truly doesn’t matter as much with the GSAs, but the parkers are the part of the retrofit that I’d like to have. The inconsistency of my wave is where I go most insane, I can have the best wave on the lake, one day, and the worst the next. Either way, I’ll be switching to GSAs, even if it’s only to have a better regular side wave.


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[D&P Powell]

Congrats on the new boat! Let’s see some pics.
Couldn’t have said it any better than koolaid did. You are probably in need of new actuators.

Here are the specs on the lights you need, they will be significantly brighter and the white matches better.
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I placed these on my Amazon list waiting for them to become available. For those interested, these bulbs became available today (without Prime shipping unfortunately). They were $15.99 US without tax. Thanks bsreid. I had them on the Z1, but haven't replaced them on the Z3 yet.

[sandm]

d&p-
looks like same lights can be had at home depot for a lot less than the amazon pricing? here's a listing on ebay for what looks to be the same lights in a 3pack for less than the single one listed. model numbers are the same and plug looks the same. not sure on sizing.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/EcoSmart-50....c100005.m1851

[D&P Powell]

d&p-
looks like same lights can be had at home depot for a lot less than the amazon pricing? here's a listing on ebay for what looks to be the same lights in a 3pack for less than the single one listed. model numbers are the same and plug looks the same. not sure on sizing.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/EcoSmart-50....c100005.m1851

NOW you tell me! It's all good... I've been doing real well with my I-Phone business lately !

[bsreid]

Haha glad you found them on amazon. Mine were about $25 for a six pack. The ones you listed aren’t 6000k being super white and probably not the narrow beam angle.

[D&P Powell]

Thanks again bsreid. Here are the before (left) and after (right) pictures. Easy, low priced upgrade. sandm, I have 2 extra... you know what I charge!

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[UNSTUCK]

@Germaine Marine ... need to get back in touch on this. I'm in Texas so a drive to AZ not feasible, but if i can get my dlr eagle (or gsa) to do the install i am very interested. '18 R23, taps 3.

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Have you watched the GSA install video's? It's a fairly simple process to do yourself.

[UNSTUCK]

Either way, I’ll be switching to GSAs, even if it’s only to have a better regular side wave.

My regular side wave has always been better than my goofy side. GSA style tabs improved the goofy side, but it completely did AMAZING things for the regular side. I hate watching regular side riders on my wave now as they have it SO much better than I do. With in reason, it does't make much difference what the setting are either. It's just long, tall, and clean every time. I imagine your results would be similar.

[cnote]

Have you watched the GSA install video's? It's a fairly simple process to do yourself.

i pulled the trigger on this a few weeks ago to have dealer do it. the GSAs are not mounted in the same spot as taps3 so there is also some gel work involved. hoping to get it on the water soon and provide some feedback.

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[UNSTUCK]

I was able to use my existing screw holes, but I built my own tabs and hinges so I could make it work without fixing any gel coat. Plus it also keeps if fully reversible if it ever needed to go back to taps3 (unlikely).