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    #16
    Originally posted by bsreid View Post
    I haven't used my yeti once... LOL

    Back on topic I think time is headed in the right direction with updating the entire lineup. Some may think the 20ft boat isn't needed but lots of people like the ease of storage and really never have too many people on board. Heck we normally go out with 3 people on our rzx...

    What lake do you use? Im on the island too have never seen an rzx3, would love to see how they surf. Ive got a G23 right now.

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      #17
      Originally posted by Rz22013 View Post
      Come on really?! 100k for a 20 footer I guess I'll be keeping my RZ2 for awhile. These prices are getting way out of hand. I'd love to get a new boat but not in my budget anymore.
      What is so out of hand about this boat? While not as long, it has more usable space then the Rz2, has triple the storage, much bigger ballast, is a dryer ride, can run through big water with ease and surf with the big boys.

      Dont get caught up in the overall footage anymore, MFG are finding ways to get creative with space saving which in turn makes these cabins massive. Get in an Rzx20 or a ZX1 and tell me they feel anything like what the length suggests. They dont.

      The RZX20 has everything the bigger boats have in in terms of freeboard, storage and wave. Its an elite boat in the 20 foot sector and its priced accordingly.

      To my knowledge this is the first true 20 footer on a 102 inch beam.... let that sink in a little.
      Last edited by Germaine Marine; 09-19-2018, 01:03 AM.
      Germaine Marine
      "A proud dealer of Tige, Supra, Moomba and ATX performance boats"

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        #18
        Originally posted by elevatedconcept View Post
        What is so out of hand about this boat? While not as long, it has more usable space then the Rz2, has triple the storage, much bigger ballast, is a dryer ride, can run through big water with ease and surf with the big boys.

        Dont get caught up in the overall footage anymore, MFG are finding ways to get creative with space saving which in turn makes these cabins massive. Get in an Rzx20 or a ZX1 and tell me they feel anything like what the length suggests. They dont.

        The RZX20 has everything the bigger boats have in in terms of freeboard, storage and wave. Its an elite boat in the 20 foot sector and its priced accordingly.

        To my knowledge this is the first true 20 footer on a 102 inch beam.... let that sink in a little.
        I’m sold now just need to surf one to see!


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          #19
          look up Seca marine on instagram they had some pretty darn impressive pictures of the wave on instagram stories.

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            #20
            Originally posted by elevatedconcept View Post
            To my knowledge this is the first true 20 footer on a 102 inch beam.... let that sink in a little.
            iirc the moomba helix is also a 102" beam in a 20ft boat class(although it is actually a touch longer than 20ft most will say it's a 20ft boat) and most of the people surfing them are saying it is a great hull compared to the mondo so this new tige should easily outsurf the rzr which has a great wake in itself..j

            it looks like another hit for tige who have been on a roll with some crazy new boats over the last few years...
            2012 22ve.. RIP 4/17
            2014 Z3.. Surf away

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              #21
              SandM I get what you are saying.

              Here are my thoughts about lengths for what its worth. Tige worked its *** off to design and engineer a premier boat that is 19.7 feet rub rail to rub rail for an overall no BS 20 ft boat. Lots of obstacles were hurdled to get everything to function and fit at that length. Many of those hurdles would have been eliminated with another 5 inches to work with like the HELIX has. We sell the Helix, love the boat but I also dont classify it as 20 because the reality is if you take it to a lake that has a 20 foot limit you aint getting on.

              I cant think of another mfg that has produced a "true" 20 foot ride in the premium big, tall boat segment. It really is pretty cool and I was a skeptic.

              You stack it against the GS20, Nx20, Malibu and others in the segment and its so far ahead its crazy. It most likely will start a new segment. My guess is in the next year or so you see a G20 and some others because the market is there........
              Last edited by Germaine Marine; 09-19-2018, 04:24 AM.
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              "A proud dealer of Tige, Supra, Moomba and ATX performance boats"

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                #22
                Call me crazy (and sorry to highjack the thread) but...there are lakes that limit the size of boat you can have.......how is that even possible? Is this common? And how does a 20' vs 24' boat actually make a difference for being allowed or not allowed on a body of water? And who patrols the water enforcing this? Do they sit there and measure your boat with a tape measurer? This just boggles my mind that this can be done and I'm really curious on the reason behind it.



                Originally posted by elevatedconcept View Post
                SandM I get what you are saying.

                Here are my thoughts about lengths for what its worth. Tige worked its *** off to design and engineer a premier boat that is 19.7 feet rub rail to rub rail for an overall no BS 20 ft boat. Lots of obstacles were hurdled to get everything to function and fit at that length. Many of those hurdles would have been eliminated with another 5 inches to work with like the HELIX has. We sell the Helix, love the boat but I also dont classify it as 20 because the reality is if you take it to a lake that has a 20 foot limit you aint getting on.

                I cant think of another mfg that has produced a "true" 20 foot ride in the premium big, tall boat segment. It really is pretty cool and I was a skeptic.

                You stack it against the GS20, Nx20, Malibu and others in the segment and its so far ahead its crazy. It most likely will start a new segment. My guess is in the next year or so you see a G20 and some others because the market is there........

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                  #23
                  Originally posted by Robmc9 View Post
                  Call me crazy (and sorry to highjack the thread) but...there are lakes that limit the size of boat you can have.......how is that even possible? Is this common? And how does a 20' vs 24' boat actually make a difference for being allowed or not allowed on a body of water? And who patrols the water enforcing this? Do they sit there and measure your boat with a tape measurer? This just boggles my mind that this can be done and I'm really curious on the reason behind it.

                  Its common and its increasing to other lakes that before didnt have a restriction. The reasoning? You will hear a ton but whether they are valid is a different story. Some lakes are private community lakes for residents only and thus were built with a restriction from the onset to try and maximize lake size and minimize lakes being torn up. Others didnt have restrictions and because of eroding beach lines etc, have started to enforce changes to try and protect homes, beaches and docks among other things. Again, whether its a legit gripe is a whole diff can of worms I dont have an opinion about that.

                  The ones by us enforce the rule by checking every boat at entry with a tape measure. For example In California, we have a private resident only lake. It has from the inception had a 20 foot restriction. When Tige first designed the Rz series boats with the activity locker a resident and tige dealer at the time on that lake also happened to sit on the board. He was able to get the Rz2 signed off as a 20 foot boat because he was removing the swim step, and having them measure from where the rear small activity lockers met the rear hatches. He was getting them to count those small hatches with sea deck as the swim step and thus not part of the measurement ... those boats during that time were all signed off and allowed to run. Since then its rub rail to rub rail. Its becoming more prevalent now.

                  All in all, its becoming such a deal that Tige decided to make a boat specifically for it. Good news? at 20 feet it throws a wave that hangs with the big boys...
                  Last edited by Germaine Marine; 09-19-2018, 07:06 AM.
                  Germaine Marine
                  "A proud dealer of Tige, Supra, Moomba and ATX performance boats"

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                    #24
                    I'll be honest everything I see about this boat is impressive. It would actually be a perfect fit for me. I love my rz2 but this would be a great upgrade. With that said I just don't think I can swing the big price tag. I get that it's innovative and can hang with the big boys but I'm not in the market for big boy prices. Once my dealer gets one I'll figure out the actual numbers and hope it works out. But realistically if I can afford big boy pricing im going to get a big boy then.

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                      #25
                      I would say the pricing is in line with losing a foot from the zx1 so it just depends on how much you can afford to spend.............. It isnt priced the same as a Zx1 or 5 its the cheapest out of the bunch which is good news...
                      Germaine Marine
                      "A proud dealer of Tige, Supra, Moomba and ATX performance boats"

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                        #26
                        elevated- good points and would be interested to see a 20ft boat that surfs like a 22. that's the only reason we sold our launch20 for the 22ve was the better surf hull. size of our crew most of the time was fine for a 20ft boat.
                        no one in las vegas seems to think that you need a garage over 21ft. for that reason alone it will be a good seller for those with these micro garages that want to keep the boat at home. hopefully tige did ALL the homework and made it able to fit under an 8ft door or better yet a 7ft like the ve did(doubtful but a guy can dream)....


                        should also note that 20ft restrictions are not that uncommon on lakes but so are no ballast/wake shaping devices so although it may fit the requirement it could also be excluded due to that.
                        good chunk of the lakes in wisconsin only allow "above no wake" speeds from 10am to 6pm. at 10:01 the race is on for the calm water....
                        Last edited by sandm; 09-19-2018, 05:07 PM.
                        2012 22ve.. RIP 4/17
                        2014 Z3.. Surf away

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                          #27
                          Bought a 2018 RZR now this! Wonder how this will affect the value of my RZR? I'd like to get this new RZX20 but hope I don't have to take a huge loss to do so.

                          Nobody has mentioned the weight. Its 1175lbs heavier than my RZR. 30% increase in weight! Can a regular V8 SUV still tow this? Can your boat lift handle this? Seems like at 4975lbs plus fluids and gear you might be near the limit of a 6000lb boat lift. Guess I could trying lifting my boat with ballast full to see how it does.

                          The lake we were at before had a weight restriction of 3100lbs. Pretty much eliminated any new boat.

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                            #28
                            This won't affect your RZR value. These are in different pricing echelons for mostly different buyers. (or at least buyers at different stages of their boating addiction)

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                              #29
                              Originally posted by tgmind View Post
                              Bought a 2018 RZR now this! Wonder how this will affect the value of my RZR? I'd like to get this new RZX20 but hope I don't have to take a huge loss to do so.

                              Nobody has mentioned the weight. Its 1175lbs heavier than my RZR. 30% increase in weight! Can a regular V8 SUV still tow this? Can your boat lift handle this? Seems like at 4975lbs plus fluids and gear you might be near the limit of a 6000lb boat lift. Guess I could trying lifting my boat with ballast full to see how it does.

                              The lake we were at before had a weight restriction of 3100lbs. Pretty much eliminated any new boat.
                              Well, take advertised weight and just call it 5000 for posterity sake. Full 46 gallons will be about 300lbs of fuel. Trailer is probably going to weight 1500-1700lbs as well. All in all it should be close to 7k lbs. Sure, most v8 SUVs will pull it and stop it. Will payload and towing capacity be exceeded?? Probably depending on which SUV and package we are talking about. Pretty much all the full size SUVs max out on towing capacity in the mid 6k range.

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                                #30
                                Originally posted by freeheel4life View Post
                                Well, take advertised weight and just call it 5000 for posterity sake. Full 46 gallons will be about 300lbs of fuel. Trailer is probably going to weight 1500-1700lbs as well. All in all it should be close to 7k lbs. Sure, most v8 SUVs will pull it and stop it. Will payload and towing capacity be exceeded?? Probably depending on which SUV and package we are talking about. Pretty much all the full size SUVs max out on towing capacity in the mid 6k range.
                                Standard 3 row SUVs yes max out around 6k to 6.5k though once you look at the towing packages, that number jumps to 8,300 for GM and 9,100 for Ford. Though I have noticed that the import SUVs don't seem to have the higher towing capacity.

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