How many hours past oil change message?

[Rbuss4]

My 2015 RZR flashed an oil change needed message last weekend. Can’t get it into the dealer before 8/20. How many hours past the message do you feel comfortable operating your boat? The oil was changed during winterization last October at about 60 hours. I am assuming the boat has breached either another 50 or has breached 100 hours. We are running out of weekends in Wisconsin; so we would like to put 5-8 hours on it mostly surfing this weekend, but don’t want to risk damage. Thanks for your feedback

[bsreid]

You’re fine for the weekend.. If it makes you feel better go to Walmart buy 8 quarts 5w30 mobile one, drain out the old over night and poor new stuff in. Done...

[UNSTUCK]

1. Do all the new boats tell you when they need the oil to be changed?

2. Has anyone ever sent in an oil sample to see the actual condition of the oil? That is the only way to know for sure if you need to change the oil.

[chpthril]

Coming up on mid August, how much longer is your season? Id consider just finishing out the season and have it changed again at winterizing. ID rather put a few more hours over the suggested interval, then put away for the off season with hours on the oil if you change it now.

[Rbuss4]

It’s an odd timing. The old master craft oil was changed every fall with winterization; never changed in between. After our first year running the RZR; it seems that 50 hours is going to be really easy to log over our summer. Does anyone regularly change their oil more than once per year assuming the break in period is done?

[bsreid]

I normally do mid season and end of season but that’s because we do well over a 100 hours a year.

[freeheel4life]

1. Do all the new boats tell you when they need the oil to be changed?

2. Has anyone ever sent in an oil sample to see the actual condition of the oil? That is the only way to know for sure if you need to change the oil.

It pops an indicator at the screen 50 hours after last oil change reset automatically. Most owners just push the reset button to make it go away so it's usually way off compared to actual maintenance schedule.
I've never bothered sampling a Raptor but I keep all the stuff around to do it and mostly just do samples for engines that develop rod knock(usually get high ppm for Chromium and copper) and makes it easier to explain to customer and not seem like I'm just trying to stick him/her with a motor swap.
It's a service we offer but nobody wants to pay for I'm the end though.

Rbuss
You are fine putting on some more hours. Everyone's got opinions and I'm in Chpthrils same line of thinking. Most important is to have new oil at winterization. I have one customer that puts well over 100hrs a year on a PCM 409 and some years he does a mid season, others he forgets, but we alway fo him at winterization. His MB has over 700 hours on it and I know for sure 400 of those hours haven't been a change at every 50. Not advocating that maintenance plan, just providing an example.

[UNSTUCK]

Just for the sake of argument:

I was just on Ford's maintenance website. In the harshest environment, towing, excessive idle and low speeds and in 4wd, it still recommends an oil service life of 5,000 miles for the 6.2 gas engine. My truck has 52156 miles on it in the course of 1362 driving hours. That's an average of 38 miles per hour. If those numbers were the same for the Ford 6.2 then it would take (5000/38) 131 hours before it would be do for a service.

Now before you jump all over me saying your boat runs at 3-4000 RPM's all the time, it's important to note that that's where an engine is happiest. The worst thing you can do for an engine is idle or lug it all day long, which might be contrary to what you may think.

Bottom line: If you have a warranty and need regular service to keep it, then you do what you have to do. If you don't, you should run good oil and change your oil when the oil analisis says it's time to change. If you get up over 100 hours on your service and you are still getting good samples, change your filter. Then be happy knowing your oil is as good as new and you saved a few bucks.

Ok, now let the flaming begin.

[Bakes5]

Doesn’t Indmar say change it at 30 hrs when you are running heavy wakesurf ballast? Seems like I read that somewhere.

Anywho...I’m a religious 40-50 hr oil guy. Probably too much, but oil change is super easy and cheaper than dinner after a day on the lake.

Do it yourself though. Absolute piece of cake to swap out the oil. Get the electric oil pump. The oil filter is a tiny pain but really no big deal.

[Bakes5]

The link to an old discussion.

https://forum.supraboats.com/showthr...hange-your-oil!

[sandm]

I would run it. same advice Chp/freeheel gave.
I ran my supra a few times close to 100hrs a season with no mid season change and no adverse effects that I'm aware of. the math unstuck lists is what drove me to not worry about it.

[ajhamzehpour]

How about the very first service on a 2017 R21? I’ve only had the boat on the water a handful of times and I got the oil change message yesterday. There’s not much season left, but I’m sure I’ll put another 20-30 hours on it before winterizing. I haven’t delved into the owners manual enough to know whether to change now and change again before storage, so looking for a couple thoughts from the group.

[UNSTUCK]

On a brand new engine I would change the oil after only 10-20 hours. You need to get out all that assembly lube and related stuff.

[talltigeguy]

Other than the first oil change, I am not sure the schedule is all that big of a deal. Despite that, I do change oil every 50 hours regardless of if it is midseason. I am more attentive just in case there is a freak warranty issue that poor oil maintenance could be a cause. Although it seems I have never heard of that on these forums.

I saw the Indmar obnoxious report to change the oil every 30 hours, but that just seems nuts to me.

When was the last time we saw an engine failure that could be pinned on not changing the oil? I am going out on a limb to say never, but I am not an engine guru.

I sometimes run my boat over the winter, but this year it sat 5 months. I am not sure that my oil with 15 hours on it turned into battery acid and sand over those 5 months. I don't typically change it again before it goes away for the winter, but that is partly because I might use it again at any time. I don't think it will make a big difference. I would appreciate a gear head explaining it to me again, even though I may not buy it.

Most boats finally meet their demise in the backyard surrounded by weeds, with dozens of broken ancillary parts and trashed trailer and interior, but with a working motor.

[JohnnieMo]

I wish I had these problems. I've put 20 hours on my boat this year. I'm debating whether it needs an oil change at all!