Supercharger bolt-on

[Zackdogg]

I'm curious, when you pull your bilge plug do you have a decent amount of bilge water?? Does you auto bilge ever run??

I do have ballast that leaks, the dealer is supposed to fix that next week. So the days I run ballast, especially repeated fill and dumps, it does get some water in the bilge.. but the auto bilge does clear the majority of it out for me. I’ve also had it on tahoe, no ballast run that day, not a drop of water in the bilge, and it was still a dog. I had considered excess water in the bilge as causing some issue, but it still isn’t 3000 pounds of water, or anywhere near there, so theoretically it shouldn’t be too much weight to handle. I would guess, at most like 20-30 gallons on the worst day..


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[BrewKaiser]

I’m assuming that means that you’re running the 2:1 trans?

No. 1.5:1. 2:1 is supposed to be much better and lower shaft angle also allows for bigger prop.

I’m assuming that the service manager is who I talked to this morning. He seemed pretty sharp, and willing to help. He’s the one that talked me into taking it to them, down there, opposed to tahoe. It’s also for a leaky ballast situation, which I also want fixed properly. He convinced me that it was better if I could take it down there, so I’ll stick with that, for now. If it needs to go to tahoe, to be checked at altitude, I’ll take it there too. Really the trailering and gas don’t mean nearly as much as saving the rest of my summer. I’ll be gone for a little over a week, so I told him he could keep it that entire time, and do what he needs to.

Service Manager has a lot of experience, but communication is not great. He may be good, but some of the techs doing the work miss the little, annoying stuff. They did mess up my initial FAE install and I had to call FAE to get the instructions/approach and correct adhesive to use. They did get on it RIGHT away and made good, but I couldn't imagine SC or changing transmission (which they told me was not possible on my '17 RZX2).

Guess I need to get by boat in there tomorrow before you do. I have a few items they need to fix, re-fix.

WRT to the ballast leak, even if getting cleared it can splash. One of my recent issues is from an O2 sensor fault which I think was caused by my flowrite ballast quick connect fitting breaking loose last week. Could be you're not getting the fault but the sensor is not working correctly.

Hopefully I don’t get to the point where I need to trade this thing on a G. I love a lot about this boat, but I’m also not willing to settle for “it almost works right”. Screw that!!

I would consider trading in or selling your RZX at and upgrading to a G before going through all the trouble and expense of retrofitting your current boat and HOPE it all works out. A SC and a trans switch I guess will cost upwards of $5K, that you'll likely not get back and questionable if warranty will still be applicable.

[Zackdogg]

Supercharger bolt-on

No. 1.5:1. 2:1 is supposed to be much better and lower shaft angle also allows for bigger prop.



Service Manager has a lot of experience, but communication is not great. He may be good, but some of the techs doing the work miss the little, annoying stuff. They did mess up my initial FAE install and I had to call FAE to get the instructions/approach and correct adhesive to use. They did get on it RIGHT away and made good, but I couldn't imagine SC or changing transmission (which they told me was not possible on my '17 RZX2).

Guess I need to get by boat in there tomorrow before you do. I have a few items they need to fix, re-fix.

WRT to the ballast leak, even if getting cleared it can splash. One of my recent issues is from an O2 sensor fault which I think was caused by my flowrite ballast quick connect fitting breaking loose last week. Could be you're not getting the fault but the sensor is not working correctly.



I would consider trading in or selling your RZX at and upgrading to a G before going through all the trouble and expense of retrofitting your current boat and HOPE it all works out. A SC and a trans switch I guess will cost upwards of $5K, that you'll likely not get back and questionable if warranty will still be applicable.

It was the 17’ rzx3 that comes 2:1, my mistake. I wasn’t sure about the rzx2..

Haha!! I’ll be there at 7am on Tuesday, they’re all yours until then!! I’ve found that’s pretty standard with dealerships of all kinds, you have the guys that know their stuff, and the guys that can barely get by. It’s always a craps shoot until you can figure out who’s who!!

Believe me, I’d love to find out that fixing my ballast will also fix this. The reason I have my doubts is, once it’s on plane, it runs like a top, there doesn’t seem to be anything wrong with the way it runs. Like I said, though, i’d be stoked to find out I was wrong!!

I had that thought, about resale. I think the Supercharger would be a major selling point, especially around here. So I think $5-7k, and I would be able to get my money, or at least partially, out of it. I wouldn’t anticipate selling this thing for 5-7 years, if I can work the bugs out, anyways. I really don’t want to go through selling this thing, even though I bought it pretty right, it’s everything I want, if I can get some more power out of it. I probably would have to pay another $30k for a supercharged G23..

It’s all pretty well up in the air, until I figure out 1, if something is wrong with this one, and 2, if there is a solution get it out of the hole. I’m trying to sort my options, see what’s most viable, and go from there. I’m going to see if I can get any info out of Tige, as well. They’ve been helpful in the small things I’ve needed. Maybe they’ll want to help a disappointed customer. If I can’t work something out, I’ll be bummed, but this will be the last Tige I own.

The warranty thing will also be a strong consideration. I’d much rather worry about the drive train not being warranted, than the motor.


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[chpthril]

G-Boats have no issue getting out of the hole................. until the prop shaft wrings off Not pocking fun at owners, but CC has their own set of issues with the g boats right now.

[bsreid]

Not trying to derail this thread but I’d jump to centurion if a brand switch was needed. Had one running all weekend for a comp, literally re fueled a couple times, engine was super quiet and tons of power.

[Zackdogg]

G-Boats have no issue getting out of the hole................. until the prop shaft wrings off Not pocking fun at owners, but CC has their own set of issues with the g boats right now.

I’m sure everyone does, and like I said, I love 90% of this boat. Hopefully it’s a matter of ironing out a few wrinkles, and I’ll be happy, which I will be the first to admit, when it happens. I didn’t think I everything through when I bought this thing. Not having a local dealer isn’t the most convenient thing I have going on, either. Tige used me as a vendor on a project they did, which steered me towards them when I started looking for a boat. Nautique has never spent a dime with me. I’ll give Tige every benefit until I’m out of options.

It is a little frustrating watching friends in their Gs surfing all day, ballasts full, while I’m doing test runs to see how much weight I can actually get out with. It would be a hell of a lot nicer if mine would just do what it’s supposed to!!!


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[Zackdogg]

Not trying to derail this thread but I’d jump to centurion if a brand switch was needed. Had one running all weekend for a comp, literally re fueled a couple times, engine was super quiet and tons of power.

The only reason I say Nautique, at this moment, is the guys I know that have them, are having no problems. I have a buddy with a B52 that’s broken down 3 weeks in a row. I also like some of the Sangers, but want the deeper hull. All my experience on centurions is with older wakeboard boats. Don’t know a thing about their surf boats.

I’m sure I’ll keep this boat for awhile. Worst case, I’ll figure this trans out. Hopefully something as easy as a prop does the trick!! Or even better, the leaky ballasts fix it. Or maybe I’ll just go back to spending my summer on a harley instead of the water!! That one probably isn’t happening!! That water is so much more refreshing and relaxing, unless I’m screaming to go .5mph faster!!


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[bsreid]

The rzx is also a much bigger and heavier boat than the g23. Plus an additional 1200 in ballast.. just sayin

[Zackdogg]

G-Boats have no issue getting out of the hole................. until the prop shaft wrings off Not pocking fun at owners, but CC has their own set of issues with the g boats right now.

I’m sure there’s issues to be had with all of them. I’m just frustrated at the moment. I’m sure I’ll get it dialed, one way or the other. I would probably feel better if I had a local dealer I could buddy up with, which is my MO for most of my toys. It makes getting things done much easier!!

The people on here, are my only source of help, and have been a great deal of it. Good news is eventually I’ll know all these answers and will be able to help the next guy!!

If there isn’t a simple fix, I’ll probably pursue that trans swap. That sounds like a doable solution, and will probably be the most reliable fix. Plus I’ll have a stronger prop shaft, and won’t have to worry about it snapping like the Gs!!


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[Zackdogg]

The rzx is also a much bigger and heavier boat than the g23. Plus an additional 1200 in ballast.. just sayin

Comparing notes with my buddy, they’re pretty damn similar, as far as I can tell.. 23’, 6000 dry weight, 3000 ballast.. am I wrong, or missing something??


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[bsreid]

Comparing notes with my buddy, they’re pretty damn similar, as far as I can tell.. 23’, 6000 dry weight, 3000 ballast.. am I wrong, or missing something??


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Nautique has stock 2850 sub floor, Tige has 3000 plus pnp to equal 4000. I know manufacturers advertise both at 6000 but I’ve talked to many people who have actually put them on scales or towed the two back to back and the Tige’s got some extra weight added on, I’d have no doubt it’s closer or if not at 7k mark.

[Zackdogg]

Nautique has stock 2850 sub floor, Tige has 3000 plus pnp to equal 4000. I know manufacturers advertise both at 6000 but I’ve talked to many people who have actually put them on scales or towed the two back to back and the Tige’s got some extra weight added on, I’d have no doubt it’s closer or if not at 7k mark.

Oh, gotcha. I’ve only seen the numbers that are advertised. Mine doesn’t have PnP bags, for whatever reason, I guess thankfully, since I can’t even use the 3000 lbs.. so his and mine probably aren’t as far apart as some are..


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[freeheel4life]

I do have ballast that leaks, the dealer is supposed to fix that next week. So the days I run ballast, especially repeated fill and dumps, it does get some water in the bilge.. but the auto bilge does clear the majority of it out for me. I’ve also had it on tahoe, no ballast run that day, not a drop of water in the bilge, and it was still a dog. I had considered excess water in the bilge as causing some issue, but it still isn’t 3000 pounds of water, or anywhere near there, so theoretically it shouldn’t be too much weight to handle. I would guess, at most like 20-30 gallons on the worst day..


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I think unless you are diligent about dragging your RZX onto a pretty serious incline and THEN popping the plug you have been carrying more water than you think. The bilge pump is not at the low point and the lowest point of the keel is well below the bilge plug. If you are popping your bilge plug on flat ground with a bag leak you are carrying more water weight than you would think. A trip across the CAT scale would prove it tho.
That being said the 2:1 is a "poor man's supercharger". I am mostly curious which boat you have. You said it came from Boise, please post a pic or two. We only had a couple of RZXs roll across our lot so I am wondering what one you have from a local guy.

[Zackdogg]

I think unless you are diligent about dragging your RZX onto a pretty serious incline and THEN popping the plug you have been carrying more water than you think. The bilge pump is not at the low point and the lowest point of the keel is well below the bilge plug. If you are popping your bilge plug on flat ground with a bag leak you are carrying more water weight than you would think. A trip across the CAT scale would prove it tho.
That being said the 2:1 is a "poor man's supercharger". I am mostly curious which boat you have. You said it came from Boise, please post a pic or two. We only had a couple of RZXs roll across our lot so I am wondering what one you have from a local guy.

I could easily be underestimating the amount of water, but it isn’t an insane underestimation. Our ramps are pretty steep, and I stop and pull the plug out on the ramp, every time and watch the water drain, for the exact reason of seeing how much is in there. It’s probably always about the same amount, but that might be because the bilge pump misses that same amount every time.. I’ll also roll across the lake with the taps plate on 8 dumping ballast and bilge, at the end of the day, to try and get as much out as I can..

It came new from Florida, to Boise, or maybe McCall, if I remember right.




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[freeheel4life]

I could easily be underestimating the amount of water, but it isn’t an insane underestimation. Our ramps are pretty steep, and I stop and pull the plug out on the ramp, every time and watch the water drain, for the exact reason of seeing how much is in there. It’s probably always about the same amount, but that might be because the bilge pump misses that same amount every time.. I’ll also roll across the lake with the taps plate on 8 dumping ballast and bilge, at the end of the day, to try and get as much out as I can..

It came new from Florida, to Boise, or maybe McCall, if I remember right.




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Sounds like you aren't carrying that much extra. Just had to rule that out. Extra ballast rolling around the bilge can really make a boat perform terribly.
May have been in McCall. Definitely didn't live down here unless it lived out in Emmett. Thanks for the pics.