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    Mystery Overheat on 2000 21V

    Out celebrating my birthday with the family and of course this is when it happens.

    Filling ballasts, wishing I had started the plumbing project of ballast system (next project). Boat came by and wave pushed up to edge of delta shore. When I stated and powered away from the shore, stated to note some squeaking of the belt. Most of the time it clears but by the time I had moved to a safe point off the shore, the squeaking stopped and the engine temp went up with alarm and I shut it all down. Smelling burning rubber, open engine compartment and sure enough the belt snapped. Examining belt, it literally melted at a point.

    All pulleys spun, water pump was firm but differently would spin. Since I had a backup belt, installed it. Checked the intake under the boat, thinking maybe sucked up something when pushed into the shallow area, but it was clear. I restarted engine with continued overheating and some squeaking of the belt. Moved to do an impeller replacement on the water.

    Thanks for all past recommendation on this site to have backup impeller and belt on the boat.

    On re-evauating the pulley on the water pump had like a melted rubber from the previous belt that broke. I thought for sure this must be the problem. I removed impeller, first time to do it on the water. A little scary to have water flowing into the boat from the intake line, but easily raised it about the water line and controlled. With free flowing water, it did no appear to be any problem with intake side., Impeller did not appear bad.

    overheat - 3.jpgoverheat - 4.jpgoverheat - 5.jpg

    After install of new impeller, drove it for about 2-3 minutes and noted the water temp heading above 200 and shut it all down. Was able to find someone to tow us in.

    Searched this forum and took suggestions on tracking intake. When I did, I realized my boat does not have any filter or strainer for my intake line. Can anyone tell me if I should install one? I was reading on V-Drive documentation of seasonal cleaning of cooling chamber. I removed that and nothing there that would be restricting intake.

    overheat - 2.jpg

    Now I am not sure where to go. My understanding is if it was the thermostat, it usually fails open.

    Could it be the water pump? How do you evaluation it?

    Any suggestions on where I can go form here. Going to hardware store to build a connection for garden hose to intake to continue the problem solving.

    #2
    I vote engine water pump bearing failure. It seized up causing the belt to brake, cooled and then freed giving the appearance of being ok. I’m guessing it felt free in spots and stiff in other spots as you turned it by hand. Take it off and then take it to your auto parts house to match up. Can’t remember what year it was, but like mid 80’s GM 350. Cost was like $35.

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      #3
      Thanks for the suggestion. I will give it a try.

      Do you know if there is any problem in using a "make-a-gasket" compound to use to close the cooling chamber of my v-drive? The gasket was toast on removal and not sure how easy it is to get one locally. I will look online.

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        #4
        https://www.nautiqueparts.com/produc...-case-gaskets/

        There was one Bakesonline as well but the pic didn't look correct. Googling "Walter V drive cooler gasket" got me that. You may find other results.

        There's a guy at Harbor Marine in Everett WA that stocks darn near everything for trans and v drives as well. At least I haven't been able to stump him yet. I think his name is Mike. Would have to double check my vendor list tho.
        Last edited by freeheel4life; 06-27-2018, 04:04 AM.

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          #5
          Thanks, I will contact them and see.

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            #6
            The gasket surface on the v-drive in your picture looks a bit rough. If you can't clean it up so it's perfectly smooth, I wouldn't bother with using a gasket. Use a good silicone (The Right Stuff or similar) to take up all the imperfections.

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              #7
              Originally posted by UNSTUCK View Post
              The gasket surface on the v-drive in your picture looks a bit rough. If you can't clean it up so it's perfectly smooth, I wouldn't bother with using a gasket. Use a good silicone (The Right Stuff or similar) to take up all the imperfections.
              ^ This.
              Oh Yeah!

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                #8
                Agree, will try to clean it best as possible. The online sources would not be able to get the gasket here by the weekend. I found references recommending Permatex #2, or Permatex Aviation products but I am sure there are others.

                water pump, thermostat, and impeller have all been replaced. All lines have been inspected. Now need a time to be home at an hour that my neighbors won't be upset about testing the system. Finally setup a direct connect for the hose, tossed the fake lake, and look forward to trying it.

                NOTE:
                Water pump did not seem bad. There was no play in the shaft, no restrictions of rotation I could see. I am not sure what else to look for. It would make me feel more comfortable knowing what caused the problem. That is the problem with changing everything, then not knowing which actually fixed it. BUT the goal is always to GET BACK ON THE WATER. Wish me luck.

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                  #9
                  Good luck dude. Either way, you’re gonna learn something. Hope it works.
                  You'll get your chance, smart guy.

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                    #10
                    Maybe not much a mystery now. How I did not see this from the start. Saw the pump on the table at a distance and noticed:

                    water pump - 1.jpg

                    On the water tomorrow one way or another.

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                      #11
                      That could be a cause

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by NICKYPOO View Post
                        Good luck dude. Either way, you’re gonna learn something. Hope it works.
                        So true. As much as I despise a mystery... solving it yourself is gold to me

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                          #13
                          Did it fix your overheating problem? Replacing water pump?


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